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Old 01-25-06, 04:51 PM   #1
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Locking Tool Help

So, I just bought a Park Tools Lockring Tool and I can't get it to work.



Now, I know it's a BB tool, but people on here said that the right side would work on hub lockrings.
But when I try and use it on my DA lockrings, the little notch just slips right out.
Any advice?
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Old 01-25-06, 05:09 PM   #2
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use the three prong side.
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I have the same tool, and I use it on my dura-ace lockrings. Just fiddle with it until it catches.
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that tool sucks.
shim it with a penny between the lockring and spanner and it becomes useable. not good, but useable.
one of the worst park tools I've ever used.
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that tool sucks.
shim it with a penny between the lockring and spanner and it becomes useable. not good, but useable.
one of the worst park tools I've ever used.
Can you clarify?
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Old 01-25-06, 05:31 PM   #6
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use the three prong side.
Doesn't fit.
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Just get the last tooth (the leftmost tooth on the picture up there) hooked into one of the DA notches. The other tooth won't fit into the the other notch, but the one is enough to pull enough leverage to get your lockring off or on. Make sure it's oriented right in the notch (ie, don't let it move up or down, which it WANTS to do, and you'll scrape your knuckles) and apply force.
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Can you clarify?
the curve on the hooked side doesn't match the curve of the lockring. that's why it slips.
if you look at where the tool makes contact with the lockring, it's really far away from the notch. At this point the prong on the tool is already slipping out of the notch.

If you place the edge of a penny/washer/something hard and thin/etc. between the lockring and the tool you can increase the tool-to-lockring contact area thus partially decreasing the slip-factor of the crappy tool.

I returned mine after 1 use.
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That may just be the worst tool ever made and I strongly recommend against anyone else buying one.

edit: Turns out you were right, I thought my old lockring was D/A but I was wrong. That tool is so not a good idea for nice stuff like that. Scrap it and get some LR pliers.
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Doesn't fit.
like so. works every time.
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That may just be the worst tool ever made and I strongly recommend against anyone else buying one.

edit: Turns out you were right, I thought my old lockring was D/A but I was wrong. That tool is so not a good idea for nice stuff like that. Scrap it and get some LR pliers.
Hozan lockring pliers are where it's at. Get them from Business Cycles.
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Thanks everyone.
I'll give them all a try.
Yeah, the tool sucks.
To all the people who said that it worked when I posted about it last week, thanks a lot!
I'm just kidding.
My LBS is ordering me a different one.
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Old 01-25-06, 08:57 PM   #13
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And the winner is...
PENNY Method!

Worked well.
Switched around the cogs and lockrings on my 4 wheelsets.
Some raw knuckles and a mangled penny.
Tool still suckk and started to work less and less as I went on.
I think the little nub started to wear down.
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Yeah the Park sucks, been there and done it many times. Picked up my Hozan C-203 today from the LBS. My lockrings will love me for the upgrade.
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Can I get a pick?
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I meant Pic.
But, nevermind anyway.
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$45 is pretty pricey, though.
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How would this work.. paging Tommity

get in on this action....
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Investment in quality. Actually, I could of used these pliers the other day on a work project. Would of made things a lot easier looking back on it now.
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Investment in quality. Actually, I could of used these pliers the other day on a work project. Would of made things a lot easier looking back on it now.
I know I know..
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like so. works every time.
i use mine like this too. it works. i want a hozan one day. . .
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The only decent cheap lockring tool I've ever seen is the Hozan one, though their pliers are what you should buy if you're feeling flush.

Theres another lockring tool discussion here, with some good info.
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-142513
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