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Old 02-04-06, 11:19 PM   #1
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Anyone here have the zipp t2 track hubs?

http://zipp.com/products/hubs/t2track.shtml

Is this the next fancy thing to freak out about?
Is phil sweating?
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Old 02-04-06, 11:36 PM   #2
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been out for a while. 500 a pair. kind of hard to compete with phil considering the price and the lack of street trustworthyness. ANy warentee info?
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Old 02-05-06, 01:08 AM   #3
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i remember reading that they encourage radial lacing. or will cover it under warranty. or something.
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Old 02-05-06, 01:08 AM   #4
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...the lack of street trustworthyness.
Zipp specifically advocates radial lacing with these hubs. Spoke holes are coined. Personally, I would have at least as much faith in the build quality of these as Phils. Does anyone know if you can get just a single hub, though, or if you have to buy them as a pair?
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$500 a pair is way too much for a street bike anyhow. Not saying it won't be done, just saying it shouldn't.
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Phil doesn't sweat. He glows.
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Which model is this?



This set, built on Mavic MA 40, are smoother than my Phils. I wish I can find another set.
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Old 02-05-06, 12:09 PM   #8
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Which model is this?



This set, built on Mavic MA 40, are smoother than my Phils. I wish I can find another set.
I forget the name but you can call Zipp and they will email you the specs on them. I have a set of those as well and they are so smooth, and thats after a good 3 years doing courier work in Boston all year round. You can not find replacement parts for it though.
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Old 02-05-06, 07:54 PM   #9
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They only come in 28 hole, which is probably fine if you pair them with zipp rims and ride them on the track, but personally I wouldn't ever ride carbon rims on the street, and I'm too heavy and hard on stuff to ride 28 hole with anything less stiff than something on that scale.


That said, they're f#cking amazing. I really wish they made 'em in a 36 hole version, or at very least, a 32. Thing is, they're TRACK equipment. I really wish the Dura-ace track cogs came in larger sizes, but they're racing equipment, they don't need to make stuff for street use.
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Is the T2 double fixed and is it compatible with DA cogs and lockring?
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Only comes in 28h and costs a zillion dollars, so no. Pretty though.
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I believe that you can get them custom-drilled (or custom-coined to be technical) with however many spoke holes you want.
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what's the diff between coining and drilling?
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Coining is little reliefs pressed into the spoke hole to allow the spoke head to sit flush in the flange. And yes...you can get em in 32.
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the fine print says no labyrinth seals, pretty sure phil bearings have those, which means if you ride them in teh rain they will gunk up like an old ball and cone hub. they seem more geared for track racing than mixed street use.
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It's single fixed and it comes in 32 hole.... they will hopefully be on my romic soon.
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and we use very close fit non-contact shields instead of seals to ensure that the bearings remain free of contamination, but have ABSOLUTELY NO SEAL DRAG.
Also, a 15mm axle? Does that mean you'll have to file your track ends?
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in rain they will gunk up like an old ball and cone hub.
thanks alot
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They only come in 28 hole, which is probably fine if you pair them with zipp rims and ride them on the track, but personally I wouldn't ever ride carbon rims on the street, and I'm too heavy and hard on stuff to ride 28 hole with anything less stiff than something on that scale.


That said, they're f#cking amazing. I really wish they made 'em in a 36 hole version, or at very least, a 32. Thing is, they're TRACK equipment. I really wish the Dura-ace track cogs came in larger sizes, but they're racing equipment, they don't need to make stuff for street use.

i have a set of zipp t2s in 32h
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what's the diff between coining and drilling?
Check out this post on the subject:
ZIPP track hub question.

"coined is when its basically punched out rather than drilled.
rolled threads are smoother, they can be repeated to much tighter tolerences and reduce the fatigue of the metal of the thread.
they basically use a die that presses the threads rather than cuts them
they can also forge it while rolling.
pretty neat"

And another thread on the zipp hubs:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...687#post866687
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Can any one answer the 15 mm axle question? eddie?
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Can any one answer the 15 mm axle question? eddie?
15mm axle thru the bearing, not 15mm thru the dropout/track ends!?

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Which model is this?
ZIPP CLASSIC TRACK HUBS (1996-99)
Classic high flanged front and rear track hubs. Simple, reliable, and a joy to ride. Drilled and slotted for bladed spokes. Status: Discontinued. Contact ZIPP Speed Weaponry for Service information.

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Is this the next fancy thing to freak out about?
Is phil sweating?
I know that this thread is super old and maybe this was already
addressed, but Zipp and Phil Wood are hardly in the same league.
Phil Wood makes fancy hubs for people with some money who
want to bling out their bike, while Zipp makes probably the best
and winningest wheels and wheel components in the world. I
am sure someone here will correct me, but I've never seen Phil
Wood hubs in a serious competitive setting, certainly not on the
track.
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Old 12-22-06, 09:03 AM   #24
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I know that this thread is super old and maybe this was already
addressed, but Zipp and Phil Wood are hardly in the same league.
Phil Wood makes fancy hubs for people with some money who
want to bling out their bike, while Zipp makes probably the best
and winningest wheels and wheel components in the world. I
am sure someone here will correct me, but I've never seen Phil
Wood hubs in a serious competitive setting, certainly not on the
track.
Somebody is using them!
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15mm axle thru the bearing, not 15mm thru the dropout/track ends!?


ZIPP CLASSIC TRACK HUBS (1996-99)
Classic high flanged front and rear track hubs. Simple, reliable, and a joy to ride. Drilled and slotted for bladed spokes. Status: Discontinued. Contact ZIPP Speed Weaponry for Service information.
The 2 sets I have had come thru my shop have fit in standard track ends with no probs.
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