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Old 02-17-06, 09:44 AM   #1
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tufo tubular clincher cyclocross tires are comfy as hell

i finally got the tufo tubular clincher low pressure cyclocross tires that i ordered for the build on the kogswell that i won. they're comfy as hell. i've been riding high pressure skinny slicks on NYC streets for so long i'd almost forgotten that there was another option.

if you have a beater with the clearance for 700X30 tires, i'd highly suggest checking these out. they're a bit pricey, but they seem well worth it. skipping on them stops the bike quite a bit more effectively than on slicks as well. i skidded them a few times just to see how it felt. it's good. it also stops the bike quickly, but i can't rationalize skidding on such pricey tires when skipping does the trick just fine.

mounting them isn't nearly as challenging as some have suggested in these forums.

the caveat with these tires is that they're low pressure, so they ride noticably slower than the stelvios or pro2race tires i usually ride. on a beater/bad weather bike, that's a benefit (to me at least), but you might think twice before putting them on anything you want to milk for speed on the street or keep 'em around on a second wheelset for crud.
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they are low pressure but you can really fill them the **** up. I think they are max rated at 270psi
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wow. even the cyclocross ones? i had push down insanely hard on the pump to get them up to 65 psi, but i'm a pansy.
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Old 02-17-06, 09:59 AM   #4
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they are low pressure but you can really fill them the **** up. I think they are max rated at 270psi
That is only for the road tires, not the cyclocross tires. They have one cyclocross that goes to 90psi the others are up to 65psi.

Even the road tubular clinchers are very comfy, although the ones I ride have a minimum tire pressure of 115psi.
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OMG no. NO. Dont pump them up to 270. Thats probably a typo or a joke.

I cant vouch for the clinchers but I can run my Tufo sew ups down to 25psi for real muddy cross races and they are excellent. Cross tires make the bike go from a sporty racer to a Cadillac.
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Old 02-17-06, 10:25 AM   #6
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OMG no. NO. Dont pump them up to 270. Thats probably a typo or a joke.
I disagree! DO IT! Pump EVERY tire you own up to 270PSI! (and you thought that just riding brakeless was exciting)
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I disagree! DO IT! Pump EVERY tire you own up to 270PSI! (and you thought that just riding brakeless was exciting)
When I used to work at a shop a couple of times we'd take tires and pump them up until they would explode off the rim. Good times, good times. I think we made some old dude **** his pants doing that, once. That **** is almost as loud as a shotgun.
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Old 02-17-06, 10:30 AM   #8
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what do you mean tubular clincher, like a tubular tire with a bead for clincher rim, so no inner tube and no glue?
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Most tubular tires do have an innertube, it's sewn up in the tire, though. That's why some of them can be repaired. You send them off (or if you know what you're doing, do it yourself), they unsew them, replace the tube, sew 'em up, and you're good to go. A nice feature if you're paying >$150 for a tire.




Tubular Clinchers are the jam. Yeah, there are little beadlike things that expand when the tire is pumped up, thus gripping the rim. The cool part about them is that regardless of the pressure in the tire, they are held on with the same force. This means, regardless of PSI ratings on the rim (e.g. some rims have a 140psi limit) you can inflate the tubular clinchers to 170, 200, whatever they're rated for. It's really a genius idea.




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Most tubular tires do have an innertube, it's sewn up in the tire, though.

Tubular Clinchers are the jam. Yeah, there are little beadlike things that expand when the tire is pumped up, thus gripping the rim. The cool part about them is that regardless of the pressure in the tire, they are held on with the same force. This means, regardless of PSI ratings on the rim (e.g. some rims have a 140psi limit) you can inflate the tubular clinchers to 170, 200, whatever they're rated for. It's really a genius idea.

yeah that makes a lot of sense.

and for anyone else who was wondering here's a link
http://www.tufonorthamerica.com/tiretypes.php

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When I used to work at a shop a couple of times we'd take tires and pump them up until they would explode off the rim. Good times, good times. I think we made some old dude **** his pants doing that, once. That **** is almost as loud as a shotgun.
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I have ridden the road elites for a while at the velodrome. Excellent. excelent tires. Little heavier than normal tubulars and lighter than clinchers. Great feel though. I really like them. I would nopt ride them on the street. I got mine from the LBS for half off. I would never ride these on the street though. like 60 bucks a tire for the elites.
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sorry just looked at my cross tyres, it's my tri ones that have a 270psi rating
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I roll Tufo S3 Pros and Continental Sprinter tubulars on the Velo. I'll almost definitely give the tubular clinchers a whirl for CX this year. I like absoultly everything about them.
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Old 02-17-06, 03:23 PM   #15
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I haven't used the cyclocross ones, but I'm currently using the Elite Road tubular clinchers for street riding. Really, really nice tires. They feel good even when pumped to 120 or more. I'm in the burbs until March and I'm pretty careful about glass and such, but I can say that I have ridden through a good bit of junky stuff and I've never flatted on them. Plus, if you do flat, supposedly the tires can usually be fixed with the Tufo sealant.
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So do you need to carry a spare tire with those or are they repairable on the street?
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You fill up the tire w/ sealant and it self seals if you get a puncture. If it rips, buy bye.

Great tires, I use them during CX season. But as an everyday tire, that can get $$. I've commuted to work, but they can wear out fast, especially on pavement.
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the sealant is supposed to do the trick... which reminds me... i should get some.

if the sealant won't do it, then yes--spare tire. however, i have to say, the cyclocross ones feel incredibly durable.

edit: oops. beat me to it.
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i finally got the tufo tubular clincher low pressure cyclocross tires that i ordered for the build on the kogswell that i won. they're comfy as hell. i've been riding high pressure skinny slicks on NYC streets for so long i'd almost forgotten that there was another option.
A very good customer of our's commutes on these tires. He raves about them.

I can't wait to find a new pair in a dumpster.
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