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Old 02-20-06, 04:09 PM   #1
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144 bcd track-specific chainring discussion

discuss your experiences with any of the following, what you would like to have in the future, and why:

1.) FSA Vigorelli
2.) Blackspire
3.) Sugino Mighty Competition
4.) Sugino 75
5.) Sugino Zen
6.) Sugino 144S
7.) Dura Ace
8.) Campy Record
9.) TA Competition
10.) Suntour Superbe
11.) EAI Vuelta
12.) Gipiemme Chronosprint
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I use Salsa 144x18th chainrings, because they are cheap, nice and round, US made, and perform just as well as the Sugino 75 I had that cost twice as much. No experience with any other brands.
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I also have the Salsa 144 1/8 ring. Haven't used it yet but it seems like a good deal for the money.
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I have a TA 1/8" ring that isn't even close to round.
I'm using it on sugino 75's and tried all kinds of centering, no luck.
been meaning to get a new one... where is the best place to get the salsa rings?
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I think ben's cycle has them for around $30.
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I got mine from spicercycles. I don't think they are on the website but give Gene a call and he should be able to hook you up. I think I paid around 30 bucks.
Your LBS should be able to order them too.
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Anyone know if anyone actually makes a 40t 1/8" 144BCD ring?
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I think ben's cycle has them for around $30.
I have one from Ben's I got for $30, but it's 3/32.

What the hell am I talking about.
It's 110 BCD.
Nevermind.
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Anyone know if anyone actually makes a 40t 1/8" 144BCD ring?
Haven't seen one, I know that Gebhardt make a 41, which is the smallest I've definitely seen.

I own a mix of Sugino 75, Campy, Suntour Superbe and Shimano chainrings and frankly I can't tell them apart when I'm riding them (all pista, 1/8"). They're all lasting, though I have to say the Campy and the older Shimano track rings are just wonderful beefy.

What I want to know is why 144 became standard instead of 151.
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Anyone know if anyone actually makes a 40t 1/8" 144BCD ring?
I'd imagine the BCD is too big to have that small a chainring. Campy 135 BCD can fit 39t
as its smallest, Shimano 130 BCD can take 38t as its smallest, it follows that 144bcd can't fit
anything smaller than 41t.
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Hmm - 41 might work too. I'm running 46 right now, and I think that's the smallest that I've seen. I have 42 on my other set of cranks, but there don't seem to be many other options for the 144mm BCD...
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I've used:

* TA 1/8" Track - completely out of round - avoid at all costs even though the finish looks gorgeous
* Shimano D-Ace track 1/8" - Older blue/grey colour. Well machined, beefy, but don't like the colour. Round enough but not that perfect...chain tension still goes slightly tight/loose when cranks turn.
* Campy Record 1/8 track - current campy track ring. Perfect roundness, really easy to get chain tension dialled in. Bit disappointed with the slightly unfinished bits on the inside of the ring which look flakey and cheap, espy as this COSTS.
* Sugino Mighty Comp - cheaper option, old style double ring w/ cutouts. I think these old style rings look great. Obviously not as much machining has gone into it (eg inner side isn't bevelled near teeth) but is perfectly round and really, really smooth. Has unusual 'W' shaped teeth profile.
* Another old-style 48T 1/8" with cutaways that I got used - don't know the make just has a symbol like a dash with two vertical lines ie:
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This is also really smooth and round. Does anyone know what make this is?? its 144bcd and 1/8".

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13.) custom Boone Ti 48T 144 bcd chainring. Love it. Beautiful, round and hasn't shown the least bit of wear yet. Perfect in every way. Also got a pair of new Campy Pista 48T/49T chainrings. Can't say much about them except they seem to do well as "things that sit in the trunk of your car and collect dust."
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Sugino 75 49T- It seemed round for the week that I used it. Now it sits in a box.
Blackspire 45T- They only come in 3/32. Mine is a little off-round but nothing that affects my riding. It has held up really well over time. The teeth barely show any wear after a few months of steady riding. Also, the black ring looks really cool on silver cranks- Very industrial.
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I have Sugino M Type, Sugino Zen, Suntour Superbe and FSA 1/8" rings. All have been fine. The only bad experience I have had was a TA I bought and returned because it wasn't even close to round.
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13.) custom Boone Ti 48T 144 bcd chainring. Love it. Beautiful, round and hasn't shown the least bit of wear yet. Perfect in every way. Also got a pair of new Campy Pista 48T/49T chainrings. Can't say much about them except they seem to do well as "things that sit in the trunk of your car and collect dust."
ha ha, titanium chain rings. now that's clutch. i'd like to see what his cogs look like and how they hold up.
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discuss your experiences with any of the following, what you would like to have in the future, and why:

1.) FSA Vigorelli
2.) Blackspire
3.) Sugino Mighty Competition
4.) Sugino 75
5.) Sugino Zen
6.) Sugino 144S
7.) Dura Ace
8.) Campy Record
9.) TA Competition
10.) Suntour Superbe
11.) EAI Vuelta
12.) Gipiemme Chronosprint
They are other possibilities - I have an exotics like old Polish Campy record knock-off Walia and perfectly round ones coming from current make, old style Gipiemme road cranks. They can be had for cheap cranks included (very similar in form to Campy Record Track except for the provision for the second ring). They are pinned, not ramped and come in 41-43T (small) and 51-53T big ring.
Edit: I have just scanned Allegro and found these:
http://allegro.pl/item86606534_nowe_...gipiemme_.html
this is like $27 and the seller claims he has also 45 and 48T rings.
You can buy it and have him ship just the rings

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so allegro is a polish ebay? how do you say "glow in the dark sunglasses"?
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so allegro is a polish ebay? how do you say "glow in the dark sunglasses"?
We have ebay.pl but it sucks. Allegro is the way to go. Back to your question:
"Okulary sloneczne jarzace sie w ciemnosci" and I have spared you Polish diactric marks
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We have ebay.pl but it sucks. Allegro is the way to go. Back to your question:
"Okulary sloneczne jarzace sie w ciemnosci" and I have spared you Polish diactric marks
ha ha! don't take me seriously folks.

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ha ha, titanium chain rings. now that's clutch. i'd like to see what his cogs look like and how they hold up.
I have 3 Boone cogs. No problem with wear. Note as far as I know he does not make a threaded cog. He'll make a splinded cog for a freewheel or a drilled cog (the same as a brake disc) for fixed.
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I use Salsa 144x18th chainrings, because they are cheap, nice and round, US made, and perform just as well as the Sugino 75 I had that cost twice as much. No experience with any other brands.
I would bet that the Salsa Rings are made overseas.
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the blackspire track chainrings come in 1/8" as well. they are not stocked by many stores, but your LBS can special order them (direct?) for you. I have a couple have not tried them yet.
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I would bet that the Salsa Rings are made overseas.
Well, both of mine say "Made in USA" on them. So does the one in the picture.
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the blackspire track chainrings come in 1/8" as well. they are not stocked by many stores, but your LBS can special order them (direct?) for you. I have a couple have not tried them yet.
Dang yo. I just got the short (narrow?) end of the stick then with my 3/32?
Meh, I'll live.
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