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Old 02-19-06, 11:28 PM
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I have recently become obsessed with these chunky, industrial looking bikes made by Eric Baar of Colorado Springs.



"The tools i now make just happen to have two wheels."

These bikes are a mix between utilitarian and post appocalyptic. This one, recently mentioned elsewhere on the forum, is copper-plated steel.




Modeled after a se assassin bmx bike:



In action, pedaled by pro racer Joanne Kiesanowski:



All of his bikes have amazing paint jobs.



I want one really bad. I think that if I ever get a custom track frame, it will be from this guy.

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It looks like a mountain bike to me?
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[QUOTE=Ira in Chi][URL=https://www.groundupdesigns.com]I have recently become obsessed with these chunky, industrial looking bikes made by Eric Baar of Colorado Springs.[

In action, pedaled by pro racer Joanne Kiesanowski:



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i am obsessing about those nice thighs
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Yeah, I'm probably going to get a custom from this guy.

Amazing frames.
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That site has some awesome pictures.

It makes me want to try my hand on a trials bike.
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If I ever get a custom built track bike, everything will be all offset and jagged. Like in your third pic where the top tube runs longer than the down tube, and I also like this picture (from groundup) where the downtube is offset from the bottom bracket:

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I like this one.
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for some reason industrial like bikes dont really do it for me. I respect the difficulty that goes into building them and the art and simplicity they represent. I even feel many of them are beautiful just not my style.
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Wow....this is nice stuff !
Hes got some unique ideas about rear tiangles !
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Eric makes some badass bikes. If I get a chance to have one built someday I would be so lucky


This is one of his own track bikes - copper plated madness
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Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.



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I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.
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Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.
I like this one a lot. Very Lemond-inspired paint scheme, which is my favorite part of their bikes.
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He's pretty genius
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Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.



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I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.
i'm not really into the chunky looking ones, but i love this one. the curved seat tube is hot.
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Originally Posted by Ira in Chi
Here is yet another of his great rides. This was on FGG a while back.



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I love the fact that none of his bikes are identical.
Ewww--that seattube is awful. Reminds me of the Alpha. Most of the bikes are nice tho
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Sliding dropouts are not uncommon on ss mtbs, but look how nice these ones look:

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My favorite is the daisy paint job SS mtb. You can thank Spectrum for the above paint jobs!
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both scott's light blue track bike and eric's copper plated one are sooo amazingly stiff, due to the square tubing used in the chainstays. they are incredible sprinting machines.

i also love how each bike he builds is so unique. i love his uncompromised creativity.

another thing i think is so cool about eric is that he loves and encourages people to help or just hang out during the build process of their frames. i appreciate the intimacy of that...
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anyone have an idea how much he charges? we talking one grand? or two? or more?
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Yup. I like the industrial-esque designs- about as far as you can get from the super-classic track bike look as possible.

I'd love to see one of those copper-plated bikes after a few years of use- i think the verdigris will look really excellent, but i wonder about the durability of the finish.
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anyone have an idea how much he charges? we talking one grand? or two? or more?
i'm not completely sure if he's changed his prices, but i believe a fillet brazed steel track frame and fork is around 1400. eric's forks are terrific. he'll do tig welded stuff too for much less. i believe his prices include the spectrum paintjob as well... as long as you're not doing anything too fancy.
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can anyone comment on the durability of the copper plating?

oh god, and better yet, will it turn green as it ages?
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thus far, i think the copper is holding up really well and i don't think it was too expensive. this guy in denver did it for him and has done several of his own frames too. it should eventually turn green. i think watching the copper develop patina and age and change is what excited eric about the idea the most.
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surely he isn't the first one to have done it though...there has to be an example of this thats already 20+ years old.
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i also highly doubt he's the first one to do it. aaron is the name of the guy who plated the frames... i know he did it at 'work', but i don't think he works specifically at a plating shop. i think he welds at a machine shop or a job shop. i think it's also more of a chemical reaction, than a plating process. i'll tell him and eric about this thread and see if we can get some direct answers, rather me trying to remember and speculate.
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