Odds And Ends
 

Anyone got a link to a shop that sells seat-post binder bolts and chainring bolts?
Preferably Sugino for both.

Are you even bothering to Google anymore?

http://www.icyclesusa.com/catalog/se...nder-bolts.htm

your lbs?

^That's where I got them. icycleusa is good for that kinda stuff.

Nah, Google isn't as interactive or fun as this.
Thanks.

Yeah the best Google can pull off in the form of an insult is:

"No results found for offs and ends. Did you mean to type odds and ends?"

http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi
http://loosescrews.com/

Both have sugino chainring bolts. But the seatpost binder bolts they have are not sugino.

Okay, so can anyone give me any feedback as to the benefits of alloy over steel?

From my own experience I have found that alloy may be lighter, but it usually wears quicker and in the end I usually wind up buying steel (thinking of chainring bolts).

cr and sp binder bolts are a horrible place to save weight. Alloy (aluminum. I hate that they use the word alloy...steel is a ****ing alloy) bolts are generally harder to tighten, less tolerant of over-tightening, easier to strip, and more likely to work themselves loose. I just had to drill out 3/5 alloy bolts because the bolts stripped (with proper tool and correct use.) On other bikes I've had to loctite alloy bolts to keep them from coming loose and deafening me with the creaking. YEMV.

know where I can get stainless stell cr bolts?

Okay, steel it is.
I didn't realize that Alloy=aluminum.
I thought it meant some different grade of steel or something.

to the rest of the world alloy means a combination of metals. to the bike world it means aluminium.

I just ordered some Dura Ace cr bolts from Wilson's (distro from Hayward, any shop can order from them.) Retail should be around 20 bucks for the set, I think.

I'm gonna pick up some Sugino bolts from my LBS for about $12.
I don't know why Sugino 75s don't come with Sugino bolts.

you should be happy they don't! if they did then that would mean you would be paying extra money just for the same bolts but with something extra stamped on them.

I've heard bad things about generic chainring bolts.
I've always used Sugino.
Maybe I'm just gullible.

My 75s came with Sugino c/r bolts... where did you get yours?

Mud, Sweat and Gears.
It not coming with Sugino cr bolts was the least weird thing about that exchange.
Do a search on "A Real Question" if interested.

I've had some really bad things happen with generic chainring bolts. Yet I keep buying them...