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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 02-25-06, 07:56 AM   #1
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I've only been riding my fixie for about a week now, but during that week I have ridden it a LOT. Since my front brake finally arrived and I installed it, I decided this morning to try the SS freewheel side of the hub. Flipped it and went for a ride.

I don't like it. Not at all. As I pedaled through the circle with the SS, it almost felt like the BB was siezing partially as the cranks passed through the 12/6 area. I even stopped, picked up the bike and moved the cranks manually with the rear wheel off the ground to make sure I hadn't screwed something up. Nope, it's smooth through 360 degrees, both directions.

It seems that even during just the short period I have been riding fixed I have gotten used to the rear wheel driving the pedals through the 12:00 / 6:00 position, and the instant I went to SS it just felt WRONG.

Anyone else feel this when going from fixed to SS and back?
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Old 02-25-06, 08:00 AM   #2
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Riding my geared bike, after I rode the fixed almost exclusevily for a year, feels "broken" indeed.

One may develop a very little talked about "flat" spot on the pedal rotation, hence; you must ride the "broken" bike to keep things ... circling.
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Old 02-25-06, 08:13 AM   #3
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One may develop a very little talked about "flat" spot on the pedal rotation, hence; you must ride the "broken" bike to keep things ... circling.
Seems that way. I never ever felt that flat spot before riding fixed and going back. I thought riding fixed was reputed to smooth out your spin, but having that little "shove" through the dead spot seems to have made my spin *less* smooth.
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Old 02-25-06, 09:00 AM   #4
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yeah, i took my full suspension MTB out for a ride a while back and it felt like the whole thing was broken.
really mushy and sloppy compared to a rigid FG bike with 120 psi in the tires.
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Im loving mine ! I think the momentum the bike makes for itself helps propel
it faster. I am crushing hills and my commute time to work went DOWN
by 3 minutes despite easy 44x17, old man type spin gears......go figure
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Heh, yeah, fixed smoothes your technique, but not your approach. I think that riding SS off road actually helps my fixed road riding, because I will put force into more of the circle, not just the front arc. But riding road fixed helps my offroad SS because of the muscle memory.

It's a symbiotic relationship between my bikes.
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Old 02-25-06, 02:47 PM   #7
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huh, maybe i should use a freewheel every now and then to stay in shape that way.
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huh, maybe i should use a freewheel every now and then to stay in shape that way.
Maybe it won't happen to you, but I noticed it so thought I'd ask the experienced fixers here.
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Old 02-25-06, 03:19 PM   #9
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Maybe it won't happen to you, but I noticed it so thought I'd ask the experienced fixers here.
I don't notice it so much, but I probably spend 50% of my time on a coastie.
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have you guys ever seen these cranks before?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Power-Crank...QQcmdZViewItem

that's a REAL spin fixer. The crankarms don't really connect. You have to synchronize them yourself.


If you want a bike that REALLY makes you feel funny, get some of those.
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have you guys ever seen these cranks before?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Power-Crank...QQcmdZViewItem

that's a REAL spin fixer. The crankarms don't really connect. You have to synchronize them yourself.


If you want a bike that REALLY makes you feel funny, get some of those.
Apparently those cranks killed the original owner. No thanks.
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Apparently those cranks killed the original owner. No thanks.

ouch. I missed that.


I'd ride 'em. Just imagine the anti-theft potential! I'd put 'em on a geared bike, but imagine the problems that Joe Schmoe Track Thief would have if you put 'em on your fancy fixed gear.
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I couldn't say for sure, but I would imagine that having powercranks on a fixed gear would totally defeat the purpose of a fixed gear bicycle. They don't pull the chain unless you are pedaling, correct? So I would think that if the chain were pushing the chainwheel, it would just spin the chainwheel around the cranks, ala front freewheel of the 70's.
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I couldn't say for sure, but I would imagine that having powercranks on a fixed gear would totally defeat the purpose of a fixed gear bicycle. They don't pull the chain unless you are pedaling, correct? So I would think that if the chain were pushing the chainwheel, it would just spin the chainwheel around the cranks, ala front freewheel of the 70's.

I think you're right. Thinking more about how they work, that HAS to be the case. I was picturing in my head the drive side spinning and the non-drive hangin' out all slack like.


I'd really love to try them out but they're SO freakin' expensive!
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Yep,
had to ride my dad's Target mountain bike today.
it was horrible.
but i mashed* the **** outta that thing anyway
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I have the same thing. I rode the Synapse into work today and felt like I was all over the road and definatly had a very jerky pedal motion. I'm scared to put it on the rollers again.
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Rain forecast for this week, so I will be commuting on my Soma Doublecross all-rounder (the fixie's set up for fair weather riding). Just took it out for a little ride... what a TANK. Incredibly comfortable. Cranks / BB seem broken. Oh well.
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have you guys ever seen these cranks before?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Power-Crank...QQcmdZViewItem

that's a REAL spin fixer. The crankarms don't really connect. You have to synchronize them yourself.


If you want a bike that REALLY makes you feel funny, get some of those.
Those things will make you faster than lance Armstrong. Kind of defeats the purpose of a fixed gear with power cranks however.
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You guys do realize that a fixed gear bicycle is also a single speed. I think you mean the difference between fixed and freewheel. Yeesh.
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You guys do realize that a fixed gear bicycle is also a single speed. I think you mean the difference between fixed and freewheel. Yeesh.
Also, when people from New York talk about going to Jersey, they should say New Jersey, not the city in England. Slang is awesome.
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You guys do realize that a fixed gear bicycle is also a single speed. I think you mean the difference between fixed and freewheel. Yeesh.
not necessarily.
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You guys do realize that a fixed gear bicycle is also a single speed. I think you mean the difference between fixed and freewheel. Yeesh.
Yes, I know that. But thank you so much for jumping in to point out the obvious while still managing not to add anything substantive to the thread .
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Also, when people from New York talk about going to Jersey, they should say New Jersey, not the city in England. Slang is awesome.
Uhmmm...that's totally different. Saying Jersey instead of New Jersey doesn't make you wrong.
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Yes, I know that. But thank you so much for jumping in to point out the obvious while still managing not to add anything substantive to the thread .

You make it seem as though there was substance in this thread in the first place.
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wow way to be a dick...
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