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Old 03-04-06, 02:08 PM   #1
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For a production bike this looks good.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/redline-925.html
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Old 03-04-06, 02:10 PM   #2
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I'd bump that If I didn't have an aversion to new bikes.

ps. It's already been discussed many times before; search.
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Old 03-04-06, 02:14 PM   #3
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Well I just saw it and I don't live in this forum. Thought I would share.
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Old 03-04-06, 02:19 PM   #4
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Looks like a nice, practical rig. That said, I've got issues with companies that don't allow internet sales of their products.
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Looks like a nice, practical rig. That said, I've got issues with companies that don'y allow internet sales of their products.

No kidding, how are you supposed to buy one, and why would redline care?
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It is virtually impossible to buy a new 'brand name' bike over the internet. Most if not all bike manufacturers forbid internet sales, making you go though the LBS.
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It is virtually impossible to buy a new 'brand name' bike over the internet. Most if not all bike manufacturers forbid internet sales, making you go though the LBS.

Yes, but why can't you buy your bike through a LBS's site like Sheldon Brown's?
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It's a slippery slope. Is Performance an Internet shop or LBS?

Basically, for better or worse, the non-Wal-Mart brands have built their business model around networks of independent bike dealers. They recognize that they need that local business presence where the customer can come in and try the goods first hand. In exchange for carrying their product, many manufacturers grant the shop an exclusive dealership for some set area.

The Internet breaks the whole model. In some cases, the manufacturer has an authorized Internet retailer program. In others, not so much.
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Long way of saying they are protecting the price and dont allow a dealer from Tx to slit the throat of a Ca dealer.
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...and don't let people who don't live anywhere near a Redline dealer to buy one of their bikes, thus also cutting out a major portion of their own potential market.
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...and don't let people who don't live anywhere near a Redline dealer to buy one of their bikes, thus also cutting out a major portion of their own potential market.
People who don't live near a redline dealer can call one and have them buy it for them and ship it to them. You may have to talk to a real person (!!!), but if you want one you will be able to get one.
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i've seen those in bike shops around here. i totally didn't realize it had a flip flop hub. i like it a lot better now.

that said, i like the feel of a track frame on the street. cuz the shorter wheelbase, low rake angle, etc...makes it handle like a goddamn dream.
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I saw one of those at the Performance Shop a few weeks ago...didn't ask to take it out for a spin. Perhaps next time.
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yeah...i mainly just want to try out the moustache handlebars.
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so, back on topic...

I really dig the Raleigh Rush Hour. Hot design and good construction.
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i've seen those in bike shops around here. i totally didn't realize it had a flip flop hub. i like it a lot better now.

that said, i like the feel of a track frame on the street. cuz the shorter wheelbase, low rake angle, etc...makes it handle like a goddamn dream.
I doubt it has track geometry, that thing looks hella slack.

Edit: you're statement is/was way ambiguous so I have no idea if you're saying you'd rather have a track frame than that or you'd like it cause you think it's track. oh well

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I just saw the raleigh rush hour for the first time in person, and it is indeed a nice looking bike. I like it.
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it looks like my dads singlespeed/fixed, well my if my dad rode a ss it would like that. I'm not saying there's anything’s wrong with the bike functionally, but it just looks like something my grandpa would ride.
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Looks like a nice, practical rig. That said, I've got issues with companies that don't allow internet sales of their products.
[sarcasm]Yeah, all products should be avaliable online so that I don't have to leave my fcking hole in the ground to interact with real human beings other than the delivery wo/man[/sarcasm]

I always like to use the example of Bikesdirect.com, who specialize in cheap, rebranded 4130 cro-mo bikes, when I target brands that sell online. On their ubiquitous eBay auctions, they claim to offer products equivalent to models $500-1000 more expensive, yet these products are quite obviously inferior in frame and componentry. Not to mention, when you go to bikesdirect.com and click on the warranty tab, you get this message:
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Just for fun, my boss at the shop contacted Windsor about their warranty policy, they referred us back to, you guessed it, BIKES DIRECT.COM, their official retailer. Now, you might say that not all companies that sell online do it exclusively, but when people wish to equate the quality and service of these bargain basement brands with those that sell exclusively via brick-and-mortar, there's some serious slippage going down on the bike slope.
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Just for fun, my boss at the shop contacted Windsor about their warranty policy, they referred us back to, you guessed it, BIKES DIRECT.COM, their official retailer. Now, you might say that not all companies that sell online do it exclusively, but when people wish to equate the quality and service of these bargain basement brands with those that sell exclusively via brick-and-mortar, there's some serious slippage going down on the bike slope.
What about the litespeeds that Performance or Nashbar sells?

Kinda throws your theory out the window.,
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[sarcasm]Yeah, all products should be avaliable online so that I don't have to leave my fcking hole in the ground to interact with real human beings other than the delivery wo/man[/sarcasm]

I always like to use the example of Bikesdirect.com, who specialize in cheap, rebranded 4130 cro-mo bikes, when I target brands that sell online. On their ubiquitous eBay auctions, they claim to offer products equivalent to models $500-1000 more expensive, yet these products are quite obviously inferior in frame and componentry. Not to mention, when you go to bikesdirect.com and click on the warranty tab, you get this message:


Just for fun, my boss at the shop contacted Windsor about their warranty policy, they referred us back to, you guessed it, BIKES DIRECT.COM, their official retailer. Now, you might say that not all companies that sell online do it exclusively, but when people wish to equate the quality and service of these bargain basement brands with those that sell exclusively via brick-and-mortar, there's some serious slippage going down on the bike slope.
See, what's so nice about riding a fixie is that you don't have to deal with going to shops and dealing with this type of competitive attitude. Bike culture exists outside of the goddamn LBS and their race bikes. Shops that specialize in corporate bikes, like the ones marketted here, are just as bad to the bike community as Puma and others cashing in on the fixed gear craze.
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What about the litespeeds that Performance or Nashbar sells?

Kinda throws your theory out the window.,
It's been theorized that by 2010, as little as 5-6% of sporting good purchases will be made online. Word on the street is, Litespeed has realized the internet wasn't the magic business solution it was made up to be, and wants to get back with brick-and-mortar shops after royally screwing them a few years ago, yet shops are giving LS the big middle finger.
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yeah...i mainly just want to try out the moustache handlebars.
I just bought one of the redline moustache bars from an LBS that was assembling a bunch of newly-arrived 9-2-5s- they wanted to build one up with flat bars, so they offed the bar to me for cheap.

I've been wanting a set of bars like that forever, and getting 'em for a few bucks is sure better than $50-60! They aren't Nittos, but the construction seems good and light. Soon they will be ridden once my Ciocc hits the prime time sometime next week. WHOOOOOT

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It's been theorized that by 2010, as little as 5-6% of sporting good purchases will be made online. Word on the street is, Litespeed has realized the internet wasn't the magic business solution it was made up to be, and wants to get back with brick-and-mortar shops after royally screwing them a few years ago, yet shops are giving LS the big middle finger.

Ahhh I wondered why I couldnt find LS at Sun and Ski. Makes sense now.
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it looks like my dads singlespeed/fixed, well my if my dad rode a ss it would like that. I'm not saying there's anything’s wrong with the bike functionally, but it just looks like something my grandpa would ride.
Wow...on another forum regarding the 925 (no clue when or where) someone made almost the exact same comment. That being said, it is extremely...eh...practical. If it is so uncool I might have to consider buying this thing.
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