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Old 03-05-06, 12:29 AM   #1
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deep dish rims!!!! pls help

im looking for some really deep dish rims i dont want them outa carbon tho. i want some super deep dish rims outa metal any ideas on who makes some. thanks. they used to make some like 5 years ago i dont remember who it was . but i want something 50mm or deeper. thanks
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im looking for some really deep dish rims i dont want them outa carbon tho. i want some super deep dish rims outa metal any ideas on who makes some. thanks. they used to make some like 5 years ago i dont remember who it was . but i want something 50mm or deeper. thanks

chicago style... mmm.
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I assume Velocity Deep V aren't deep enough...wouldn't they be heavy as ****?
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Are you looking for something like this (front wheel)?

If so, good luck finding something not carbon or fiberglass and have fun with the cross wind.

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I love that bike...
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43mm, not >50,yet I love them - have several, all different, sets. There was track specific set on ebay.co.uk recently.
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OMG, look at that riding position! Too far forward on the seat, TT bars flipped up at himself, and it even looks like the stem is too short and the saddle is too low. The guy looks like he borrowed the bike of his little sister!
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OMG, look at that riding position! Too far forward on the seat, TT bars flipped up at himself, and it even looks like the stem is too short and the saddle is too low. The guy looks like he borrowed the bike of his little sister!
He's riding for Phonak, I'm guessing either he or one of his myriad coaches knows what they're doing.

He's probably just forward on the saddle because he's surging.
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That's Floyd Landis and although he looks like a complete geek on the bike, he just took a bunch of major TT specialists (Bobby J, Levi, Michael Rogers) to school at the Tour of California. I agree he looks like cr#p, but hey, whatever works..!

BTW - as far as deep dish, your cheapest, best bet might be some CXP30s. Yeah, they are only 30mm deep but massive and built to withstand a tank.
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OMG, look at that riding position! Too far forward on the seat, TT bars flipped up at himself, and it even looks like the stem is too short and the saddle is too low. The guy looks like he borrowed the bike of his little sister!
Yeah, I think its better to sit on the seat rather than insert it...um never mind.
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That's Floyd Landis, and that photo was taken while he was crushing everybody in the Tour of California last week.

http://www.velonews.com/race/dom/articles/9547.0.html

Not sure how deep you want the rims, but you might be thinking of old Mavic CXP-30s. These were like very shiny Velocity deep-v's, and Mavic doesn't make them any more, but you can still find em on ebay. The first generation Mavic Cosmic wheels used this rim.

I know you said no carbon, but maybe you can find a couple of used Mavic Cosmic Carbone wheels and rebuild them. The rims and everything structural on these wheels are aluminum, and the aero deep part is a carbon fairing. I think they have a non-standard spoke count, like 22 spokes or something, so it may be hard to find a track hub to build to. And, you might have to use two front rims so the spokes line up through the holes in the carbon fairing. If it worked, it would be pretty cool.
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Hey, Same time, where we separated at birth?
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OMG, look at that riding position! Too far forward on the seat, TT bars flipped up at himself, and it even looks like the stem is too short and the saddle is too low. The guy looks like he borrowed the bike of his little sister!
I believe his fit is perfect. He is surging, hence he is forward on the seat. Imagine his stable position when his elbows are at right angles and his a$$ on the seat. Like skiing downhill. the bars flipped up help place the elbows further forward without affecting the cross-section. They are in front of the stem axis, so the steering is less affected by bumps and some of his weight is held by hands. Clever.
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If you're gonne tell me that his wrists are in a nice comfy position that allows a comfident, stable grip, I will find you and beat your head against an aero bar

Obviously, Landis and his team tested it thoroughly and this position works for him, but it clearly looks like crap. Hey, Michael Johnson ran in a somewhat $hitty way, and my favourite female runner of all time, Paula Radcliffe runs in a hideous style - if you can call that a style.

Back to eating $hit in the crosswind now.
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If you're gonne tell me that his wrists are in a nice comfy position that allows a comfident, stable grip, I will find you and beat your head against an aero bar
OK, come and try
BTW. I sad nothing about his wrists - personally I do not understand that, nor the base bar pointed downwards so the wrists are in similar position. Remember frontal shots from TdF? All these guys turn their wirsts like that - it hurts me just looking at them.
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I think those guys are hammering so hard with their legs that there is virtually no downward force on their hands or wrists.
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not as deep as you wanted [probably about 35mm] but:

you might be able to find some campy atlantas on ebay or something

the same rim they used for the shamal except drilled for 32 except 12/16


sexy as fu<k.

the hed jet60 has a structural aluminium rim, but a 60mm deep carbon fairing and they crop up on ebay fairly frequently.

i doubt you'll find anything >35mm deep and not carbon.... aluminium would be stupid heavy...

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Old 04-13-06, 12:27 PM   #20
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So this thread has been dead for over a month, but I just came upon this while perusing FGG:

FiR Aria:


I can't tell if it's any deeper than the Shamal rims or not, but darn it looks purty.
Anybody have more info?
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Old 04-13-06, 12:45 PM   #21
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try giordano's.
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it's not delivery, it's Dijiorno!
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If you can track 'em down, the Fir Super Rialto as well:

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ask these guys.

http://www.redroseimports.com/rri_fir.html
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in my search for fir rims... i somehow ended up on this image... dunno how.

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