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    My reply.

    In regards to the March 13th article in the Marin Independent Journal:

    There is more to this story, and I feel obligated to share my side.

    I have done my best to understand everyone’s position in this matter. I can appreciate the newspaper’s craving for an eye-catching headline and article. I recognize that the doctor would be upset with me for being somewhat untruthful and preventing him from fully examining me. I acknowledge that the District Attorney would be frustrated by many of my actions. I can certainly understand Mr. Arrigoni’s desire to protect himself. I also appreciate the Arrigoni and Ghilloti families’ wish to keep one of their own out of trouble. If I had a son, I would go to any lengths to shield him. I accept this.

    I also freely admit that I have made my mistakes. When I started noticing improvement in my sight last fall, I made a decision not to tell anyone. The life of a partially sighted person is not easy. Very few people understand visual impairment, and even fewer understand partial sight. For instance, a close friend of mine has diabetic retinopathy. This condition has left him with a small spot of central vision, and no peripheral sight. Because of this, he must use a mobility aid (a “blind stick”). However, with his central vision, he is able to read things such as traffic signs and food containers. He is harassed, frequently aggressively, on a daily basis by people who don’t comprehend his situation. I decided not to expose myself to this treatment. I now realize that this attempt at self-preservation led me into a series of missteps. I should have been honest with everyone about my improving condition from the beginning, but I wasn’t, and now I’m paying the price. I accept this.

    The article accused me of many atrocious acts. However, my life would be very different right now if they were true. One hurtful allegation was that I am not now, nor have I ever been, visually impaired. This statement is not truthful, and the reporter knowingly disregarded direct evidence (my medical records) to make it. Even more cruelly, it suggested I have somehow taken a guide dog another blind person. If this were factual, my Oliana would be removed from me. However, in reviewing my records, the guide dog school has not and will not take her as I am still visually impaired and require her service. Unfortunately, nothing I say or do will change many people’s perception of me. This article has permanently crippled my integrity. I accept this.

    I have tried my hardest to grasp all aspects of my life as a visually impaired person. I have learned that I can not bend everything to my will. I am aware that I make mistakes, and I have to live with their consequences. I also know that I have made peace with myself and the important people in my life. Few can understand the torment of losing vision. Every day is filled with terror, loneliness and confusion. I had to give up my three favorite activities; school, work, and riding my bike. Even worse than not being able to see the face of a loved one is knowing that the memory of their appearance fades daily. Few are able to empathize. I accept this.

    My vision has been improving steadily for many months now, and I can only hope this continues. All I have left is the dream of sight, the love of my family, and the knowledge that I have said my piece.

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    I think we are glad that you are recovering and hope that you will be back to posting more often and chatting with us. Whatever mistake you've made can and will be forgiven in due time and whatever is owed you by the aggressor will also come in due time. Good luck with recovery.
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    I've been watching this unfold, and this is what I suspected to be the case. Torrin, in my opinion, you've openly admitted your mistake (which isn't even that horrible of one, I would imagine anyone could have made the same), and all is forgiven. I hope that your recovery is quick and complete.

    The only frustrating thing is that Mr Idiot got off. This whole mess is his fault. Ugh! He makes me soo angry and disgusted!

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    thanks for taking the time to clairfy. just know that you don't owe any of us anything. best of luck on your recovery and moving on with life. i can't pretend to know what it's like, but i think you'll emerge from this a stronger person.

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    Glad to hear your side of the story. I really couldn't be bothered to wade through all 4 pages of that other thread regarding the article. The first page was far enough!! Hopefully your vision improves to 100%! You're in our prayers!

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    Your response sounds mature. Too bad your actions were not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flythebike
    Your response sounds mature. Too bad your actions were not.
    pull your head out of your ass, cheer up and stop looking for ways to make yourself feel better by hurting people over the internet.

    hows that for mature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flythebike
    Your response sounds mature. Too bad your actions were not.


    shut the eff up.
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    I don't know you, Torrin, but I think your explanation of your side of things is certainly a step in the right direction, both legally and morally. I have a preternatural fear of anything relating to an eye injury or impairment of my eyesight, so I can certainly relate. If it hadn't been actively concealed, though, your improvement may have been only a mitigating factor, and not a basis for a complete dismissal of the criminal action, and wouldn't probably have as great an effect on the civil action (whatever that may be). In short, it's always better to get this stuff out in the open. Thanks for giving your side of things--life is long, and it will work itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ink1373
    pull your head out of your ass, cheer up and stop looking for ways to make yourself feel better by hurting people over the internet.

    hows that for mature?
    If you want to condone someone's lack of integrity, you are certainly free to do that.

    The "Yes Men" forum is over there, over the next hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terror_in_pink
    shut the eff up.
    I really really love this forum. Whenever I make a good point that isn't in agreement with somebody, they resort to an ad homium attack, and/or tell me to shut up. Good thing I don't care if you like or don't like me.

    Torrin made his bed, now he gets to lie in it. Of course it is too bad he got injured. I've had my share of serious cycling injuries including a dose of wheelchair time and multiple surgeries, and I'm certainly glad I never had anything pemanent happen to me. I hope he continues to improve.

    Nevertheless what he did was wrong, and the authories acted accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terror_in_pink
    shut the eff up.
    Torrin's reply kinda puts a damper on what you said in the other thread, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonFixed
    Torrin's reply kinda puts a damper on what you said in the other thread, huh?

    Not really, because torrin still has injuries and you people STILL MAKE ME SICK.

    The guy has had a really difficult year, GET OFF HIS BACK.
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    i'm about sick of you too. why can't people post their opinions without being told to shut up? who do you think you are?

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    because his retort to such an honest, painful, open and vulnerable post deserves a big shut the hell up. that's why.

    Maybe he didn't handle it as gracefully ad YOU wanted, but it sure is easy for you to sit back in your high chair and point the finger

    what is wrong with you people? can't you see the guy has been through hell?
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    Is it a criminal offense to fake a medical condition in a court of law?

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    Good to hear your side of the story. The only thing that matters is that your eyesight is improving.

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    I'm with T.I.P. here. Maybe his actions in the first place weren't squeaky clean, but I probably would have done the same as he did in his situation. IMO, nobody got what they deserved, legally speaking. The victim got f*cked, the perp walked. To the naysayers: show some respect for what the guy's been through and shut the hell up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flythebike
    I really really love this forum. Whenever I make a good point that isn't in agreement with somebody, they resort to an ad homium attack, and/or tell me to shut up. Good thing I don't care if you like or don't like me.
    It's not your "good point" that people are responding to. It's the lack of tact. You wanted a fight, you got it.

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    I sincerely hope what was taken from you returns Torrin.

    I was shot in the eye with a pellet ***** when a child and lost sight in both eyes for several days.
    Terrifying.
    As an adult, I imagine it would be even more so- to lose your sight.

    The world is just as ugly\beautiful as you remember it.
    Just depends where\how you look at it....and has nothing to do with sight.

    Peace.
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    Torrin - Good luck with your recovery. Hopefully the worst
    part of this nightmare is over. Don't let the negative folks
    get you down there are a lot of people on BF.net that look
    forward to your future posts.

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    he way I see it:
    We all defend our spaces in times of need. Torrin defended his and was assaulted with a ****ing vehicle. Not cool.
    When I visited Torrin, had I lobbed a tennis ball at him, he would not have been able to catch it due to his lack of sight. You cannot fake the position of a person's eyes who has lost his or her sight - like my father's when his retina detached.
    I know of at least TWO cases of soldiers being in range of an IED and losing their sight temporarily. Go to a VA and check the cases coming home - they will be there. Often times, it does return, if only partially.
    I do not care what anyone's experiences are be it messenger, commuter, recreation rider, or professional cyclist. The bottom line remains:

    A cyclist was assaulted with a VEHICLE. Justice was not served, it was diverted. By no means does this excuse the actions of the driver.

    Bad journalism is for parrot cages.

    I am glad Torrin is still around. Period.
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    "I recognize that the doctor would be upset with me for being somewhat untruthful and preventing him from fully examining me." "When I started noticing improvement in my sight last fall, I made a decision not to tell anyone. " "I now realize that this attempt at self-preservation led me into a series of missteps. I should have been honest with everyone about my improving condition from the beginning, but I wasn’t, and now I’m paying the price. I accept this."


    Sounds to me like he is aware of his mistakes and has come to terms with his actions like an adult. Some of the comments were a bit harsh ,but thats just one persons opinion. Maybe some of you should follow Torrins lead and stop acting like little children anytime someone has an opinion that you dont like.
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    i feel like a complete *******, but is there a thread that explains what you are all talking about?

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    i found it earlier. search for "lacklust" in the topic title.

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