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Old 03-09-06, 10:17 AM   #1
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Girl meets pavement.

So I finally got my Specialized road shoes to practice on a non-fixie bike clipping in and out of my Quattro pedals. However, it would seem that I have issues at the fine art of releasing my foot from the pedal, seeing as how I ended up eating the asphalt in front of car. Luckily, the excruciating pain in my elbow was nothing serious and the car didn't turn me into roadkill. Any of you seasoned clipless riders have any pointers?
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take your foot out before you fall over.
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adjust the float
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take your foot out before you fall over.
That's the key. I'd amend it, though: Make sure you take out the one that's on the side where you're leaning.
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get used to kissing the pavement. eventually you'll stop eating **** and you'll be happy.
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My first foray into clipless ended in much the same result at one of the biggest intersections in Berkeley (MLK/University.) Fell over in slow motion, and the only damage was to my ego. I loosened the mech a bit and practiced more and now I run it as tight as can be (though now I'm mostly on non-adjustable eggbeaters) and never have problems. I think everyone needs one fall when trying out clipless just to keep them alert.
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Yep. Pull out while you're still getting to the stop. And get used to riding on the backside of the pedals. They're really slippery with road shoes.

On the fixed, I just try to get my cleat onto the pedal then let it clip in on the upstroke.
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Seriously, practice in a grass field then move to the parking lot near the feild. Grass hurts plenty less.
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new cleats need to be broken in, too. i was having problems last night unclipping because the cleats are still pretty new.
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It would seem that I'm just a plethora of stupid questions today. What is float and how do I adjust it?

As for the unclipping on the side I'm leaning to, I think my inherent problem with that spill is that I was trying to unclip my other foot as well.

P.S. I'm used to eating pavement, but it sucks more attached to my bike.
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When I tried out road shoes and Looks, I didn't know you could unclip. I just fell over when I had to stop, and started riding again from the ground.
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Another tip (since my last one was SO helpful) put a little light lube on your cleats, and the part of the pedal they clip into. More important for getting in than getting out, but I find it helps with new pedals and cleats.
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Float is the amount of side to side play you can move your foot around while still being attached to the pedals. On crankbrothers pedals I think you have the option of 15 or 20 degrees depending on how you attach the cleats onto your shoes. Look in the owners manual on how to attach the cleats depending on how much you want. It is pretty simple to adjust.
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float is 'wiggle room' to keep from damaging your knees. adjustment depends on the system youre using.
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Another tip (since my last one was SO helpful) put a little light lube on your cleats, and the part of the pedal they clip into. More important for getting in than getting out, but I find it helps with new pedals and cleats.
I'll have to try this out, the only luck I have getting into these things is CrankBrother's "shimmy in" technique.
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Float is the amount of side to side play you can move your foot around while still being attached to the pedals. On crankbrothers pedals I think you have the option of 15 or 20 degrees depending on how you attach the cleats onto your shoes. Look in the owners manual on how to attach the cleats depending on how much you want. It is pretty simple to adjust.
Yup, cleats are installed in the newbie setting already.
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Yup, cleats are installed in the newbie setting already.
Then it will only get easier to unclip as you wear down the brass of the cleats.
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Another tip (since my last one was SO helpful) put a little light lube on your cleats, and the part of the pedal they clip into. More important for getting in than getting out, but I find it helps with new pedals and cleats.

I've used non-stick spray (butter flavor but that part is up to you). This is an old MTB trick that has served me well for years.
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Unclipping early is impractical, IMO. Dick around on a back street for a while where you don't have to worry about cars. Clip in and out about fifty times while riding around slowly. Seriously, it'll help. Practice the hell out of it and pretty quickly it'll become something you don't have to even think about.
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lean up against a wall or a fence and just practice unclipping. You don't have to be moving to practice the motion. As for getting in, just stomp that ish.
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every two or three rides my buddy just falls over when we come to a stop. I kills me. The best part is the look on his face...he KNOWS he's going to eat poo, and it all just happens soooooo s-l-o-w-l-y. It kills me.

Butter flavored pam is good but don't leave your rig outside...the butter can attract pole cats (errr...skunks) and you don't want to be falling in traffic AND smelling like a skunk.
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Float is the amount of side to side play you can move your foot around while still being attached to the pedals. On crankbrothers pedals I think you have the option of 15 or 20 degrees depending on how you attach the cleats onto your shoes. Look in the owners manual on how to attach the cleats depending on how much you want. It is pretty simple to adjust.
there's a difference between release angle and float. You're talking release angle.
CB pedals have 6 degrees of float, regardless of the release angle setting.
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Just earlier this morning a coworker was looking over my bike and asking a lot of questions. He wanted to know why I didn't have a rear brake, so I rolled the bike a few cubes down and demonstrated how it is possible to lock up the rear wheel and skid pretty much as well as with a brake just by using the drivetrain. As I came to a stop, I somehow couldn't get my foot out of the pedal on the side I was planning to step down on, and gracefully tipped over into the coat rack with a loud clang that dropped several hangers, creating more resounding clangs in an otherwise quiet office.

The coworkers that witnessed it had a good laugh with me, but my boss looked confused as she stuck her head out of her office and asked what the loud noise was. oops.

Like others are saying, do a lot of clipping in and out for practice while you are not riding in traffic, and then teach yourself to unclip before you come to a stop. I don't know much about eggbeaters (I use SPDs), but you should be able to use the pedals at least in a limited manner with other parts of your feet to stay unclipped while you come to a stop. This leaves both feet ready to touch down if need be.

That said, you're pretty much guaranteed to eat pavement at least now and then as a result of the pedals. It tends to happen most often when there are lots of people around to increase the humiliation factor. Just peel yourself off of the ground and make like you meant to do it that way.
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I've used non-stick spray (butter flavor but that part is up to you). This is an old MTB trick that has served me well for years.
Does this attract un-wanted attention from animals?

I think everyone should fall over at a red light once a season. Keeps everything in perspective.
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