Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 25 of 25

Thread: spokes

  1. #1
    blah onetwentyeight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    5,573
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    spokes

    Any recommendations?

    Building my first wheel this weekend, got a good deal on a Sanshin NJS hub off ebay and an Araya Super Hard Anodized rim...

  2. #2
    shoot up or shut up. isotopesope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    colorado springs, co
    My Bikes
    yes please.
    Posts
    1,961
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    14/15 dt swiss revolutions.

  3. #3
    perspective distorts killsurfcity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    25th and Girard
    Posts
    1,346
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    what does the 14/15 mean? it that gauge?
    the sound of life

    "I have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry." - John Cage

  4. #4
    Team Beer Cynikal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Sacramento CA
    My Bikes
    Too Many
    Posts
    5,765
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Yup. 15 on the inside and 14 on the nipple and end.
    I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC

  5. #5
    shoot up or shut up. isotopesope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    colorado springs, co
    My Bikes
    yes please.
    Posts
    1,961
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    yeah, double butted. they're 14 gauge at the j and threaded nipple portion, and 15 gauge in the middle. a double butted spoke is acutually stronger because under stress the force directs in the thinner part which gives a little, rather than having it go to the j or nipple...

  6. #6
    perspective distorts killsurfcity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    25th and Girard
    Posts
    1,346
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    cool, thanks. any specific reason why that gauge is preferable?
    the sound of life

    "I have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry." - John Cage

  7. #7
    Cornucopia of Awesomeness baxtefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    not where i used to be
    Posts
    4,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by killsurfcity
    what does the 14/15 mean? it that gauge?
    yarp. butted. the ends are 14 gauge, the middle is 15.
    i dunno if you'd want to build your first wheel ever wil Revs.

    PS. revs are 14/17 or 15/17.
    {o,o**
    |)__)
    -"-"-

    O RLY?

  8. #8
    blah onetwentyeight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    5,573
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Why not? Just curious.

  9. #9
    shoot up or shut up. isotopesope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    colorado springs, co
    My Bikes
    yes please.
    Posts
    1,961
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    14/15 is thicker than say a 15/17, thus a bit more heavy duty and can take more abuse...

  10. #10
    Cornucopia of Awesomeness baxtefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    not where i used to be
    Posts
    4,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    spoke wind-up issues.

    but yeah, you might want something a bit beefier for your first wheel build.
    {o,o**
    |)__)
    -"-"-

    O RLY?

  11. #11
    i hate haters dubteka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    San Francisco
    My Bikes
    celo europa 80's track, colnago pista, samson keirin. bite me.
    Posts
    560
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    double butted (14/15g)Sapim spokes from freewheel have done me well for some time now.

    14/15 = guaging... thickness of spoke at head and body. double butted (14/15g) is 14 guage (thicker) at the hub and nipple end, and 15 guage (thinner) in the body of the spoke.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    311
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    anybody use straight guage. I'm building up a set right now and want to figure this out. Also anybody know where I can get spokes for less than the usual dollar a piece

  13. #13
    Cornucopia of Awesomeness baxtefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    not where i used to be
    Posts
    4,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    $1/spoke? for straight gauge? you're getting gouged.
    that's the price of Revs

    try icycles
    https://secure17.nexternal.com/share...products%2Easp

    SG will build a stiffer wheel than DB, but at the expense of decreased fatigue strength.
    {o,o**
    |)__)
    -"-"-

    O RLY?

  14. #14
    shoot up or shut up. isotopesope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    colorado springs, co
    My Bikes
    yes please.
    Posts
    1,961
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    yarp. butted. the ends are 14 gauge, the middle is 15.
    i dunno if you'd want to build your first wheel ever wil Revs.

    PS. revs are 14/17 or 15/17.
    oh crap, you're right. i was thinking of competitions. i used them on my last wheel build... which was almost four years ago. hehehe

  15. #15
    Prefers Aluminum Sprocket Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Honolulu
    My Bikes
    Wife: Trek 5200, C'dale Rush Feminine, Vitus 979 Me: Felt S25, Cervelo Soloist, C'dale Killer V500, Miyata Pro (fixie)
    Posts
    2,671
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sapim CX Rays - light, strong and expensive

  16. #16
    blah onetwentyeight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    5,573
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Snazzy. They look like those Hoshi ones...

  17. #17
    Cornucopia of Awesomeness baxtefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    not where i used to be
    Posts
    4,847
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    $2 each.
    {o,o**
    |)__)
    -"-"-

    O RLY?

  18. #18
    blah onetwentyeight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    5,573
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ogh. this is a 36h hub. 72 bucks? Thats more on spokes than the rim and hub combined!

  19. #19
    Ferrous wheel
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    New Orleans
    My Bikes
    2004 Gunnar Rock Hound MTB; 1988 Gitane Team Pro road bike; 1986-ish Raleigh USA Grand Prix; mid-'80s Univega Gran Tourismo with Xtracycle Free Radical
    Posts
    1,388
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Leif-fire-eater
    anybody use straight guage. I'm building up a set right now and want to figure this out. Also anybody know where I can get spokes for less than the usual dollar a piece

    I have used straight guage DT for a couple of city bike builds. I'd use butted for a track bike or fast road bike, though. And yeah, $1 a spoke is highway robbery.
    One thing about living in Santa Carla I never could stomach -- all the damn vampires.

  20. #20
    hullo. drac_vamp's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    san francisco
    My Bikes
    74 paramount track, 80s maruishi track, 70s chesini track.
    Posts
    1,458
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hoshi bladed, holla
    t.h.r.

  21. #21
    hateful little monkey jim-bob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    oakland, ca
    Posts
    5,274
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Leif-fire-eater
    anybody use straight guage. I'm building up a set right now and want to figure this out. Also anybody know where I can get spokes for less than the usual dollar a piece
    All the wheels I've built are 14g non-butted. They're all still in service.

  22. #22
    jack of one or two trades Aeroplane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Suburbia, CT
    My Bikes
    Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
    Posts
    5,635
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jim-bob
    All the wheels I've built are 14g non-butted. They're all still in service.
    14g straight is the way to go for strong on the cheap. But if you're building sunshine hubs, might as well spring for the butts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Irwin Goldstein
    Men should never ride bicycles. Riding should be banned and outlawed. It is
    the most irrational form of exercise I could ever bring to discussion.

  23. #23
    Iguana Subsystem dolface's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    san francisco
    Posts
    4,016
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dubteka
    double butted (14/15g)Sapim spokes from freewheel have done me well for some time now.
    +1

    travis, as always, will hook you up.

  24. #24
    romper RicFlair Fixie's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    SF Ca.
    My Bikes
    surly steamroller w/ phil woods to velocity deep v's. sugino, nitto, etc. boom shaka laka
    Posts
    154
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    14/15 sapim double butted. 20 for a wheel i think
    yo

  25. #25
    The Red Lantern Rev.Chuck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    5,967
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    14/15 gives you the best of both worlds. You get strength at the j-hook and nipple, but a little spring(and lighter weight, an ounce or so per wheel) from the 15g mid section. I believe that wheels built with these spokes hold up better because the spoke can soak up some of the hit rather than transfering it all into the rim. One of the companies building downhill wheels noticed that their butted wheels had fewer failures than the straight guage wheels. So they would be good on potholes and railroad tracks as well.
    Are you a registered member? Why not? click here to register. Its free, and only takes 27 seconds!
    Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.

    I am in the woods and I have gone crazy.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •