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Old 03-16-06, 10:59 PM   #1
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Possibility of FBM making a track frame...

So- FBM, a BMX company, might make a track frame. Their frames are all hand made in house by riders, and are super high quality. As a BMXer and someone who rides a track bike, I must say that this would be amazing. Send them an email to let them know they should go through with it, as they still aren't 100% certain about it: info@fbmbmx.com
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Now why in the world would Steve make a track frame?
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Check the shop talk section on their site.

They also have a friend who rides fixed- they had a blurb about him riding across country a while ago.
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that would be cool. the logical next step after a track bike would be...

da da daaaaaa

a SS MTB!!!! that would be even cooler
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Now why in the world would Steve make a track frame?
Because everybody and their brother is making a trackish frame and it's a good way to make money.
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Old 03-17-06, 08:56 AM   #6
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hell yeah. my FBM Angel of Death ****ing Rocks. I would love to see what they could do with a fixed. Also think about it there BMX Frames are about 350 for a handbuilt american made frame. If they could price a track frame similarly who wouldn't want one.
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Because everybody and their brother is making a trackish frame and it's a good way to make money.
Everybody like S&M, Standard, Kink and the likes? I don't think so. Sure it would be cool to be able to buy from someone like that but it's not going to happen. I just don't see any of these guys going that route anytime soon if ever. But if thats what gets you goin' then dream on.
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You know I did not think it was that far off. Many companies make 24" cruiser frames already, redline s&m and standard do. So why are 700c wheels that much harder to adjust too. Not that radical of an idea if you ask me
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It's not, It's just that these guys tend to focus only on BMX. I'm sure they may do a few custom frames for themselves or friends, but I doubt they would ever put anything into production. Some years back IF had a prototype BMX frame out in Boston but they never went into full production with the frame because the demand wasn't there.
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Oh and cruiser frames are part of BMX, that is why you see them out there.
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I understand cruiser frames are part of bmx, I raced one 10 years ago. I just dont think Steve would pass up making a bit of money. Fixed is a popular thing right now, whether we like it or not, and he seems to recognize it. The frame is not that much different, and obviously there are BMX riders who ride fixed as well. If he made 100 of them, I'd bet he could charge 500 a piece (like bens does for the milwaulkee ), or more and sell all of them fast. The thing about BMX is that the market is limited to the people who want to ride a specific way. Make a fixed frame and almost anyone can ride it. So the demand is there, it is just whether or not he wants to deal with the trouble of putting it into production.
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I like the idea, city fixies and BMX have a lot in comon except weight.
Allthough I am wary about quality and "Their frames are all hand made in house by riders" being connected. Anyone remember Outback?
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The weight of freestyle frames is down to between 4.5- 5.5 lbs now, and the bikes are holding up fine. And yes, FBM are very high quality- ask anyone who rides one.
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Everybody like S&M, Standard, Kink and the likes? I don't think so. Sure it would be cool to be able to buy from someone like that but it's not going to happen. I just don't see any of these guys going that route anytime soon if ever. But if thats what gets you goin' then dream on.
Well, Redline is, and AFAIK it's already pretty successful.

As far as the rest of the BMX world, somebody has to be first. BMX and fixed-gear for street tend to appeal to overlapping demographics. I'll bet that FBM realized that when a lot of folks stop riding BMX, they're starting to get into the whold FG scene. Why not cash in on being an already recognized name for these disenfranchised BMXers?
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Now I may be wrong here but Redline has a wide varity of bikes where as FBM and like minded companies only do BMX. Sure there is always a first for anybody, I just doubt thast it's the case here. But time will tell.
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S&M makes a single speed mountain frame.
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Think about it. Put yourself in his shoes.

They have all the equipment, they have a supplier of materials, they have employees that know how to build frames. All they need to do is figure out the frame specifics and they instantly have a broader market. I am not saying that FBM will be the first but it would be easier for them to do it rather than companies like T-1 who get all their stuff made off site (not to say it is any less of a product because T1 rules.) It just seems that for a company that already builds bike frames it would not be too difficult for them to make a new frame 6" longer with smaller tubing.
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S&M makes a single speed mountain frame.
I have never heard of it before, can you post a link for it?
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actually, my friend (who almost got sponsored by fbm) gave steve a call after i told him about this and steve asked him if he thought there was a market. dave said yeah, and steve is seriously considering it. just thought i'd throw it out there. from the horses mouth.
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Then I may be proven wrong.
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On a similar topic, why doesn't Surly make a BMX frame? Their marketing seems, to me, aimed at the BMX comunity.
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They've got the instigator, which is sorta like a bmx bike but without those funny little wheels..
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Now I may be wrong here but Redline has a wide varity of bikes where as FBM and like minded companies only do BMX. Sure there is always a first for anybody, I just doubt thast it's the case here. But time will tell.
Redline doesn't exactly make a wide variety... I'd say folks like specialized and giant make a wide variety. More than 1/3 of Redline's product line is BMX stuff. They've got a few mountain frames, and some cross frames too, but they are most well known in the BMX arena.

Maybe FBM is trying to do what Redline did, and expand their line? I think a track frame would be a good bridge to a SS mountain frame or a road frame. Either way, another steel track frame only gives us folks more options, which is always a good thing.
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They've got the instigator, which is sorta like a bmx bike but without those funny little wheels..
My friend rides an instigator. I would NOT say that it's like a bmx bike. It is a freeride bike with all of the weight of a FS, but no rear suspension. And he drops 6 footers to flat on it. Solid.

I have an instigator fork. It is ****ing heavy. But, it is rated for use on tandems, so it is solid as hell also.
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