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Old 03-18-06, 02:50 PM   #1
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This is going to get expensive

I'm about to be heading over to one LBS to drop off some campy hubs and the original rims that came with my Bianchi. Tubular. The start of trying to get everything on her Italian. New tires for the conversion there too, then off to another shop to have the rear respaced down to 120mm and a new BB for the chainline...

This will leave me with a set of DA wheels that are in search of a Japanese frame that also has the NJS stamp. In the 57-60cm range.

Just thought I'd share...
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Old 03-18-06, 03:03 PM   #2
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Money, like time, is meant to be spent.
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Old 03-18-06, 03:27 PM   #3
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what do you plan on doing with those DA wheels?
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Old 03-18-06, 03:39 PM   #4
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Good luck finding a Keirin frame that size. You might have to get one custom built. If that's what you want to do, I say go with Nagasawa.
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Old 03-18-06, 03:49 PM   #5
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just remember that you can have just as much fun and dependibility from a $100 conversion on a used surly hub.

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Old 03-18-06, 04:12 PM   #6
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Except that it sucks.
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oh, sorry. i must be mistaken.
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ENO eccentric hub, 135mm
I just ordered one
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i thought you were already having financial problems?
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i belibe we used to call this POS. part aquisition syndrome.

everyone with POS has financial problems; no matter how much money they make/are given, especially if you allow your tastes to fall to njs/italian styles.

edit: yes. PAS, not POS.

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Don't you have a knobbie rig that needs to be fixed? Rode mine today, good times.
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i belibe we used to call this POS. part aquisition syndrome.

everyone with POS has financial problems; no matter how much money they make/are given, especially if you allow your tastes to fall to njs/italian styles.
PAS i do believe. and i think i got it! havent been employed since august yet i've purchased two frames (keirin and custom built) and done some expensive builds since then. as an undergrad and grad student the first time i didn't feel that i had a real student experience, not having amassed loads of debt, so i'm trying to make up for it this time around. just waiting on the $7,000 loan check!
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Its amazing how one thing leads to the next when it comes to bikes. I just got a Fuji Track on Thursday after selling my conversion. I decided to keep the stock cranks and chain (sold all the other fuji parts on my conversion and kept my old parts, DA, Nitto, etc.) and love the feel of the 1/8 chain as my other one was always loose. Well after two days of riding I decided to breakdown and order some Sugino 75's, a 45t chainring from FSA, two new DA cogs in 1/8 14 and 16 one for each side of the hub. I was planning on getting the Sugino set up as a graduation gift to myself but I couldnt wait. My friend tried to talk me into just getting the stuff for the new wheelset I want to build now but I declined and will make that a graduation gift. Now if I can just get a Chris King Headset and a Thomson post I'll be happy. Thank goodness I work at a bikeshop.
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Financial problems were last paycheck. Now the IRS and I are great buddies, and my student loan just got a forbearance. So I had a little money to spend

Though it ended up being more than I thought, I still made out good. The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way...

The knobby rig is the one that I was respacing, and it's already fixed. And now it's got a fancy sealed BB and a better chainline. So now I can actually use it as a fix/fix. Found out that my sidewall was disintigrating when I was putting the wheel back on and had to buy a new rear wheel, too. A Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case 700x32. Feels really solid. I need to get a matching front... New track nuts, and two big ass blinkies to put on my bag...

PAS is hard to resist when you've been mostly broke for two weeks then get paid and have all these parts that need to come together...
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The knobby rig is the one that I was respacing, and it's already fixed. And now it's got a fancy sealed BB and a better chainline. So now I can actually use it as a fix/fix. Found out that my sidewall was disintigrating when I was putting the wheel back on and had to buy a new rear wheel, too. A Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case 700x32. Feels really solid. I need to get a matching front... New track nuts, and two big ass blinkies to put on my bag...
Good to here, now about those off road adventures......
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"The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way..."

the wheels i dropped off today are gonna be .25 a spoke and $25 per wheel! go bike works!
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"The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way..."

the wheels i dropped off today are gonna be .25 a spoke and $25 per wheel! go bike works!
Damn, you got me on that one. I'm hoping I get better quality spokes...

Whatever it ends up being, I wanted to use that shop just because it just opened. Dude was in a PHD program, kind of put that on hold to work in a shop last summer. Ended up opening his own a couple of weeks ago. All about the commuters, and he's the Rivendell dealer in town now. There's a lot tied up in inventory, but not much that I need. So dropping off a set of wheels and hubs and saying 'build these up' is something I can do to help keep him in business that's mostly profit...

Gotta help the little guy, you know?
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I have to hold off on buying anything large until I pay off my Mercian frame ($1,050), Trek 5200 ($1,400), and a bike tour ($370).
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Nashbar has Vitt tubulars on sale for $15 right now.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?c...it=y&pagename=

Don't forget your coupon.


And you did see that Miyata NJS on Eplay in 57c, yes?
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Old 03-19-06, 09:29 AM   #20
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Why did you show me that? WHY?!?!

My brother has like 6 Miyatas, all conversions. They're all sick. He doesn't have a track...

This was supposed to be expensive over the course of the summer, not expensive NOW.

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Its amazing how one thing leads to the next when it comes to bikes. I just got a Fuji Track on Thursday after selling my conversion. I decided to keep the stock cranks and chain (sold all the other fuji parts on my conversion and kept my old parts, DA, Nitto, etc.) and love the feel of the 1/8 chain as my other one was always loose. Well after two days of riding I decided to breakdown and order some Sugino 75's, a 45t chainring from FSA, two new DA cogs in 1/8 14 and 16 one for each side of the hub. I was planning on getting the Sugino set up as a graduation gift to myself but I couldnt wait. My friend tried to talk me into just getting the stuff for the new wheelset I want to build now but I declined and will make that a graduation gift. Now if I can just get a Chris King Headset and a Thomson post I'll be happy. Thank goodness I work at a bikeshop.

Now all you need to replace is that sh!ty Fuji frame!
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Now all you need to replace is that sh!ty Fuji frame!
Being that by selling my conversion for what the whole fuji track cost me so I basically paid nothing for the frame and fork Im pretty happy with it. The Fuji frame is exactly what I needed and so far (for the 75 miles Ive put on it since Thursday afternoon) it has proven to be a nice frame for the money.
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HereNT I echo this expensive syndrom. I look at my GTB and think it needs a new crank, but it can't just be any crank I want Sugoni 75s, but at 249.00, well... I looked at FSA at 239.00. That's just the crank, not BB, not new wheels, which I am going to build myself, I hope to do a twisted wheelset, maybe not for the GTB, but for something. I have also been thinking about a couple frames that are at One to One, a Bianchi, and a Giadana, that Andrew is also looking at. That'd turn his crank if I got it. But that's a frame, and I'll need to build wheels, and get cranks...

I was laying in the street looking at my tacoed front wheel this evening thinking, "you know, I just don't want to do this any more. I want to buy a bike that is all together, I don't want to play Doc Frankenstien any more (smiling at my new Bianchi cromo fork on the Schwinn World)."

Conversions are fun, a great track frame is even more fun, I am sure a great track frame with great cranks, BB, HS, pedals, hubs, rims, tires, bar, stem, fork, is even better. When is it Maxed out?
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Bleah. Just checked the bank account, and I'm already down to around $300 for the next couple of weeks. Unless Jim will let me pick up those wheels on my next payday. Oops. Being dead poor for a couple of weeks and then having money makes impulse buying a little difficult to control...

But I have nice new lights and bar tape and gloves...
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Truing = $15 per wheel. Building one is easy, handing it over for final truing gives peace of mind.

I have Campy Records, sourced Campy rims and did the calculations for spoke length here -


http://www.damonrinard.com/spocalc.xls

Bought the spokes at Nashbar, assembled at home in an hour, and Erik's trued them up. Done for $31 in labor.

As usual, labor = $. I understand keeping the little guy in business, but keeping money in MY pocket comes first. I tend to piss away most of my money too.
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