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    Homebrew chain&lock "review" on FGG

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/wig/cityskin/

    The guy thinks that a chain from the local hardware store and that measley padlock half the members here can pick is "badass", tough and even "overkill"... He knows it can be cut with a bolt cutter but figures that doesn't matter because bolt cutters are never used by thieves... Pathetic.

    Somebody needs to tell tell the Dennis to pull that crap off of the site in case some people believe it and lose a bike or two.
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    i've said it before, i'll say it again. if it's less than grade 70, don't use it. he talks about the grade 30 5/16" chain having a breaking strength of 1900 pounds in that article. the same diameter chain in a gr70 would weigh less, be rust proof instead of just rust resistant, and have a breaking strength of like 4500 or so pounds. step up to a 3/8 gr70 chain and the breaking strength is over 6000. it's a little bit more money, but the **** can only be cut with pneumatic cutters. completely worth it.
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    thats one bad ass (big city chain)
    It would still be easier to steal his billfold

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    my friend has a similar setup (i dont know the specific chain/lock) but he said it cost him like $30, and has a sweatshirt sleeve sewn up around it. he likes it, and i've been thinking of making one, seem more versatile then a u-lock (but would probably use it in conjunction with a u-lock in sketchy areas)

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    what a ******, I've personally both caught a crackhead hacksawing through my own crap chain and seen a dude casually pull out a massive crowbar and get busy on a bike on the half a block from one of NY busiest intersections (bway and houston if you care). Also seen the remains $20 American locks and a master lock bike chain that where clearly cut by massive bolt cutters...

    Of course that wallet hanging off his ass like tp is going to disappear way quicker in the big city than that bike...

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    correction. nobody "reviews" anything on fgg. any attempt to review something ends up being **** like this or an advertisement for his sponsors.

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    Haha! Isn't WIG the people selling those silly "I'm too cool for reflectors" vinyl fabric....reflectors?


    That lock? I wouldn't use it on anything I'd miss.

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    this guy wears a braided leather belt. enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abe1x
    I've personally both caught a crackhead hacksawing through my own crap chain and seen a dude casually pull out a massive crowbar and get busy on a bike on the half a block from one of NY busiest intersections (bway and houston if you care). Also seen the remains $20 American locks and a master lock bike chain that where clearly cut by massive bolt cutters...
    He lives in Traverse City, Michigan. I think the chain will do him fine, considering a lot of the locks I see locked up in larger towns (even Boston) are $5 cables.

    In summary, chill out folks. He's not making a ton of money off of the site, and it's a great site.
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    Wow. Pleats rule.
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    By him not showing his face, he gives the illusion that he could be any one of our fathers trying to find out what all of the hip city folk are doing these days.

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    I saw a sucker with a thin-ass pink hardware store chain locking up a team fuji. This was a college campus as well.

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    I had read this review prior to seeing this post and kinda felt the same way. That's not a big city lock and it's a review of chain-locks rather than the wig product. But it's also kinda funny how big city locks /are/ different.

    I go to school in Detroit, where crime is high, but not bike thefts, so I was locking up with a friend once and thinking it was going to be tricky so i started trying to position my bike oddly and he was like "What are you doing?" and I said trying to make room for both of us. He pulled out his long thing cable lock and said "I can fit around it fine". I pulled out my mini u-lock and was like "Yeah... I'm from Chicago."

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    It's not a bad lock compared to the majority I see while riding through college campuses and the like, but it's definitely well below par comapred to a "real" big city lock. Looks can be deceptive; Kryptonite and others that make serious chain locks use extremely strong alloys and then harden each link to the point that you're not going to be snipping it with a bolt cutters. His lock is about as good as his chain. Yeah it's solid brass (which means nothing), but it also looks like a common four or maybe five pin tumbler that can be picked in less than a minute by a skilled locksmith or thief with the right tools. It would also probably open up pretty quickly if you gave it a few good whacks with a small sledge hammer.

    I'm a big fan of my Kryptonite evolution minu U. It's not as beefy as the NY series (which will apparently include a mini version soon), but my bike is not tremendously desirable and I lock up in suburbs of Minneapolis, not Chicago or NYC.

    I think this guy would be most vulnerable if he locks up in the same place routinely. I doubt bike thieves carry 4' bolt cutters on them at all times, but if they saw a tasty bike that was vunerable in that way, they could easily stop by the next day with the big guns. If you've got an expensive bike and an inadequate lock, the least you can do is not be consistent enough for a thief to put you on his calendar. Switch it up a bit.
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    Am I the only one who keeps reading "Hebrew Chick" in the title of this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperRevue
    Am I the only one who keeps reading "Hebrew Chick" in the title of this thread?
    I just opened this thread to say that I keep reaing "Hebrew Chain..."

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    I hereby deem such lockery "Hebrew Chainz"

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    that guy is wearing khakis... AND they are pleated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slopvehicle
    I hereby deem such lockery "Hebrew Chainz"
    better not, borderline offensive due to "jew = cheap" stereotypes

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    Look who's all PC.

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    sorry, i forgot how hot racial stereotyping was right now, my bad, carry on

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    breaking strength 1900 lbs, good for a small town for sure, but a 2x4 and teh pole it's locked too will break that chain without damaging the bike. At $19.95 he got ripped, and he forgot to add $17.99 for the Wig product. DIY is great when it doesn't matter too much.

    The chain cover thing is nifty, specially given the way the nylon tubing that comes standard with most locks frays so much faster than Cordura, which is all about abrasion resistance.

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    I gotta correct myself, it's made from ripstop cotton and a twill weave material unknown.

    I still think it's a fine effort and will not make better ones out of respect and goodwill for people trying to make good stuff. You folks making those might kill repeat business the way I'd make em

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehz
    sorry, i forgot how hot racial stereotyping was right now, my bad, carry on
    I'm picutring orthodox Jew dudes representin' in tha hood wearing Krypto NY Chains around their necks.

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