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Old 04-13-06, 09:15 AM   #1
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Redline 925 Moustache bars too low

I have commuted twice, 7 miles each way, on my new redline 925 fixed and my palms are still tingling. This is my first fixed bike and its amazing. I love the momentum

My riding position with the moustache bars is very agressive, and as a result I only have 1 hand position on the bars - the straight ends, which makes it feel like drops. The bars are still about 3 inches lower than the seat after changing the stem which increased the height by about an inch.

I am afraid that I may have bought a frame that is too small, 52 cm. I am only 5'6" .
My lbs engineer convinced me that the 54 cm would be too long. He is not a Redline dealer so he did not have the 54 cm in stock for me to try.

Was the 925 designed to be agressive.
I thought about turning the moustache bars upside down so that the straight ends would be about 2 inches higher. Is this crazy? Any other suggestions would be appreciated

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Old 04-13-06, 09:20 AM   #2
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Yes,
That would be crazy.

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Old 04-13-06, 09:29 AM   #3
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Try it out. You may need to swap the brake levers/cables with each other.
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Old 04-13-06, 09:46 AM   #4
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Flipping them sounds good. You could also try riser bars, or an even more upright stem.
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Old 04-13-06, 09:47 AM   #5
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Or see if you can test out a taller stem for fit - one with a ton of rise. No biggie, but new brake cables might be in order here, too. It'll make a big difference.

edit - oop - ditto that
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you get used to being hunched over, i have a good 4 inch drop from the seat on my fixed gear, and 5 inches on my road. if im out on a tour i flip the stem on my road so its only 3.5. also, the harder you ride the less weight will be exerted on to your hands because more of your weight will be placed on your feet.
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You also may want to move your saddle back a bit.
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Moustache bars always seemed a bit hunchy to me--I've never understood how they could be comfortable. Maybe consider inverted bullhorns with a very long stem? I've seen a few bikes on fgg that do this. The bullhorns point inward, and down. Since you like riding on the ends, you would have that position, and be able to ride on the flats.
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try a stem with more rise. They are ugly, but an adjustable stem would let you find the height that suits you. then swap it for the appropriate rise if you can't abide the uggness.
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Old 04-13-06, 11:54 AM   #10
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Is this crazy?
Crazy would be to have a SS or fixed that does not have some kind of mod to it!
You are in the norm.
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for me anyway, moustache bars had to be raised so high to be comfotable that they just didn't work for me.

i say either raise em up silly high; or just get a set of dropbars. some people love moustache bars but i can't figure out why...
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Old 04-13-06, 12:05 PM   #12
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Yeah, the only way I could get comfy with moustache bars was to raise them ridiculously high, even for me.

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your saddle might be pointed down too much as well..
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Comfort over style.
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The guy who owns this bike is the guru of American cycling:

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The guy who owns this bike is the guru of American cycling:

and yet he rides bike which is clearly to small for him

Isn't that a demonstration bike so people c an test ride all different kinds of components?
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http://www.stanford.edu/~dru/moustache.html
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One question, sutt.

How much seatpost is extended out of your frame? That is one indicator to see if the frame is too small. If it is close to or at the minimum insertion mark, you might want to look into exchanging for the next size up.

Have you tried using a shorter stem? You might be too stretched out, causing you to hunch even lower.
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i like the way mustache bars look upside down, in fact, i prefer it.
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the frame is the right size.. you just dont dig the 'stache...lots of people dont
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When I rode the 9-2-5 the other day, the handlebars almost seemed like they wanted to be flipped- at least aesthetically.

I am 5'6" also, and would buy a 52, I think. I have a very short reach, though. Try flipping them before you get too discouraged. If not, you can always try different handlebars. That size frame should work for you, though.

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I finally flipped the mustos and what a diffrerence it makes. The bike feels smoother on rougher pavement, its also a betther configuration for commuting. The next adjustment is to move the brake hoods closer to stem because the curved sections of the bars are now useful. Thanks for all your suggestions

Also, I love the Shimano M24 multipurpose pedals.
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I finally flipped the mustos and what a diffrerence it makes. The bike feels smoother on rougher pavement, its also a betther configuration for commuting. The next adjustment is to move the brake hoods closer to stem because the curved sections of the bars are now useful. Thanks for all your suggestions

Also, I love the Shimano M24 multipurpose pedals.
I would like to see a picture with the bars flipped if you don't mind.
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I left my bars low, but also moved in the hoods.... makes a big difference. My previous bike had an almost completely upright position, so my hands and wrists are still getting used to the addtional pressure... but I like the slightly more agressive position it allows.
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Moustache bars always seemed a bit hunchy to me--I've never understood how they could be comfortable. Maybe consider inverted bullhorns with a very long stem? I've seen a few bikes on fgg that do this. The bullhorns point inward, and down. Since you like riding on the ends, you would have that position, and be able to ride on the flats.
The other day I walked into a shop to look at a set of bullhorns, and came out with moustache bars. So far, they're pretty nice. With drops, you have about 3, maybe 4 positons. And the difference between the drops and the hoods are very extreme. Drops feel too low, the hoods too high.

With moustache bars, the variance is not so much up and down, but fore and aft. And there are a wide range of positions. I can put my hands anywhere along the outside part, or on the front part, or anywhere inbetween.
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