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Old 04-23-06, 05:48 PM   #1
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Mark V or Jamie Roy

Hello,
I am lookinig to buy an IRO for commuting and would like your input on if I shoudl get a Mark V or a Jamie Roy? Also any suggestions on gearing I should get since I would be commuting over alot of hills into the city of Pittsburgh. I have looked at IRo Cycle website a lot but would apreciate the input from seasoned veterans.

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Old 04-23-06, 07:14 PM   #2
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I like steel: Mark V.

As for gearing, I presently ride a 53X19, for 77 gear inches.
I have about 800' of dynamic range on my 13.5 mile commute, which includes a short killer hill and one long grind of about 1.5 miles.
I also ride with a front brake, which makes a difference if it gets away from me going downhill.
Put the above in the context of riding fixed gear 30 miles per day for the past 1.5-2 years.

The above said, I find that 72 gear inches gives me the best all-around performance, especially when one considers controlling the bike downhill and braking with the legs only, and without any tricks such as skidding.
If I could send myself a message with a time machine, I would advise myself to start out with 72 inches, and maybe even stay there.

How does one figure gear inches?

Go here:

http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

Select the proper wheel size; in my case, 700 X 23.

In the gear units field, select Gear Inches.

In the chainrings field, I put 47, 48 and 53.

In the custom cassette (cog) field, I put 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.

Then, hit calculate.

47 X 17 = 72.7 gear inches.

On my 13.5 mile commute, I find that I get identical times (41 minutes) in either 72.7 gear inches or 77 gear inches.
I like the sensation of extra speed I get with 77 inches, and I like the sense of extra downhill control I get with 72.7 inches.
They both produce the same time on my commute.

For further comparison, a lot of factory fixies come equipped with 48 X 16 chainring and cog, for 78.8 gear inches.
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Old 04-23-06, 07:50 PM   #3
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If you're commuting, definitley jamie roy. eyelets for fenders and other handy commuter bits that gain you no coolness points.
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Old 04-23-06, 07:55 PM   #4
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I commute on a Mark V, but I do have to admit that a Jamie Roy makes more sense. It's aluminum so there is no need to worry about corrosion, and it has fender/rack eyelets.
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Hey now i know how to use that gear inch thing on Sheldon’s site Thanks

I ride the mark v & really like it( mind you I have nothing to compare it to)but so far so good. a bit more aggressive angles then the j Roy witch is more rodie relaxed is what i'm told cant go wrong with either one for the price most like the mark v for what its worth.
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The IRO Rob Roy is steel and has braze ons for water bottles and eyelets for fenders and a rear rack. The fork can accomodate bigger wheels, etc. I'd suggest the Rob Roy.
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http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

Select the proper wheel size; in my case, 700 X 23.

In the gear units field, select Gear Inches.

In the chainrings field, I put 47, 48 and 53.

In the custom cassette (cog) field, I put 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.

Then, hit calculate.

47 X 17 = 72.7 gear inches.
You can just put in 47 and 17. There is no reason to fill all the spaces.
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You can just put in 47 and 17. There is no reason to fill all the spaces.
You can, but it's kind of nice to see what going a cog or two smaller or bigger will do for you, too.
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yea pittsburgh! I've got a Mark V and love the crap out of it.

But, if you're looking to throw on bigger tires and fenders, a Jamie Roy is probably more up your alley.

I've got a conversion that has all that jazz, my Mark V is my 'nice bike'.
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I'm going to suggest the Rob Roy as well, but I'm biased. In fact, I'm sitting here this morning giddy as a school girl and biting my fingers because the new Rob Roy has been on the UPS truck 'OUT FOR DELIVERY' since 3:55 AM.
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I'm going to suggest the Rob Roy as well, but I'm biased. In fact, I'm sitting here this morning giddy as a school girl and biting my fingers because the new Rob Roy has been on the UPS truck 'OUT FOR DELIVERY' since 3:55 AM.
You will love the ***** out of it. It's a great bike.
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