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Old 04-24-06, 11:32 PM   #1
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crushed seat binder, lugged frame - worth fixing?

I'm attached to my first fixed bike, and after cleaning it up after the winter I just couldn't get the seatpost to stay. Take it to the shop to borrow their calipers to check the post and seat tube diameters only to find that I've actually crushed the binder trying to get it to stay.

Ever since the guy with the hat at Via in Philly told me he thought the frame was a Pinarello, I've got the idea that my frame is "worth" "something" on top of really liking it. I'm waiting for Marinoni to give me a quote on a cheapo weld job, and Yellow Jersey has a thing where they weld in a thing and machine it out to replace a crushed binder on a lugged frame, but I have a feeling that they'll be way more than I would want to pay when I've just built up a new bike. Especially when this frame cost me thirty bucks and I've got a junky Peugeot in the backyard that could become the backup/rain/take it on the bus down south bike.

But sentimental value and all. Plus pretty.

Worth it?





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Old 04-24-06, 11:35 PM   #2
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ive never seen a pinarello with eyelets/seatstay caps like that. not even old ones.

if you want to use that frame, just grind the binder off and u can probably use a wide seatpost clamp to secure seattube
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Old 04-24-06, 11:41 PM   #3
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if you want to use that frame, just grind the binder off and u can probably use a wide seatpost clamp to secure seattube
Not likely, There is no place for it to wrap around.
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Old 04-24-06, 11:51 PM   #4
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i cant really tell from those photos whether the lugs are tall enough... the clamps on tig'ed bike really only clamps on 3mm of tubing
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there's really nothing to speak of above the lug itself. That was my first idea, but a seat tube collar just won't work; if they made them that skinny, I wouldn't trust it anyway.
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That would be a pretty easy fix.

File off old one, sand off paint, braze new one on, file slot, repaint and done.

Edit: wait - is that lug damaged too?
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If the lug is fine then it should be an easy fix. You can probably do it yourself with a mapp torch and some brass.
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Re: biff and Cynikal:

I actually didn't even consider lug damage - that little space on the left center of the rear of the lug, does that imply damage? I have a Raleigh frame that has the same kind of thing, and I just assumed that it was how it looked, or that like the finish or edge was worn off but there was no structural damage. Both frames came that way, both were ridden by me without problems, but interestingly both had seatpost/binder problems.

How's that look?
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It kinda looks like the seattube is pulling away from the lug. If that's the case, then you'd be spending WAY more than you paid for it to have it repaired. Are you sure you're using the right diameter seatpost?
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It kinda looks like the seattube is pulling away from the lug. If that's the case, then you'd be spending WAY more than you paid for it to have it repaired. Are you sure you're using the right diameter seatpost?
Just measured both the seattube and the post, yeah.
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It looked like rust seperating the tubes but I'm far from an expert. Biff is probably the best sounding board here, being a framebuilder and all.
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