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Old 04-25-06, 02:50 PM   #1
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Rochester NY anyone?

I am being flown up for an interview with a company in Rochester, NY and wanted to see if any of you guys had and fixed-centric info for me about this city.

To let you know where my priorities are, the first thing I did when I got done with the phone interview was to see where the closest velodrome was. Toronto's seems to be the closest velodrome. Then I checked to see how many bike stores were in the area. Then I saw that 28 was the avg. February temperature. ewww.
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It's not called Rotten-chester for nothing.
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Worst. Place. EvAr.
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I am here, in the wasteland that is Rochester.

There are a few fixed riders, we usually do a group ride on the weekends that ends in a trip to a bar, special trips are also in order.

The city isn't bad to bike in, but to get to places from my school is usually a *****.

Ill pm contact stuff.
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Old 04-25-06, 05:39 PM   #5
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I am being flown up for an interview with a company in Rochester, NY and wanted to see if any of you guys had and fixed-centric info for me about this city.

To let you know where my priorities are, the first thing I did when I got done with the phone interview was to see where the closest velodrome was. Toronto's seems to be the closest velodrome. Then I checked to see how many bike stores were in the area. Then I saw that 28 was the avg. February temperature. ewww.
as for city specific stuff.

There is a wicked good bike shop down town called Full Moon Vista.

Move to Park Ave area, it is nice neighbor hood wise and also bikeable anywhere.

It gets cold. It gets snowy. It gets windy. It gets rainy. Not so much fun.

Most people who bike in the city aren't bikers because they love biking. There isn't much of a bike scene other than urban mountin biking.

We have awesome food. We have the best grocery store ever (Wegmans).

I have to run but thats a quick over view.

edit: oh, and you have to be an idiot to get your bike stolen. Most bikes are un touched when they are locked with just a cable lock. Bring a U Lock and no one will come close.
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I've heard Osaka might be nicer in February.
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i went to school in Rochester for a year...but i didn't have a bike with me up there

but yeah it can get pretty cold

and wegmanns was pretty good, and nick tahoe's too
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A friend going to RIT tells me that they prohibit the use of bikes on campus. That's totally incomprehensible and unbelievable to me, considering how swarmed Syracuse University (where I am, a little bit away) is with them. Anyone know if it's true?
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A friend going to RIT tells me that they prohibit the use of bikes on campus. That's totally incomprehensible and unbelievable to me, considering how swarmed Syracuse University (where I am, a little bit away) is with them. Anyone know if it's true?
I doubt that is true unless its a new rule. A good number of people used to ride to class from the Apartments on the far end or even from the freshman dorms. You could ride bikes ride down the center of campus on "The quarter-mile" and no one would say anything. However, they didnt like my friends or I skateboarding and with all the new construstion I wouldnt put it past them prohibiting all this stuff now and only letting people walk these paths. When I was there I would often see roadies show up early in the morning to ride around the campus which is a smart idea because I wouldnt dare ride a bike on the streets of Henrietta.
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A friend going to RIT tells me that they prohibit the use of bikes on campus. That's totally incomprehensible and unbelievable to me, considering how swarmed Syracuse University (where I am, a little bit away) is with them. Anyone know if it's true?
It's sort of true. There is one main pedestrian path on campus between the dorms and the academic side (the campus is almost barbell shaped) and you're not allowed to ride on that stretch.

Though the rule is more like: Don't ride on the quarter mile (the stretch's name) between classes or some kid in a campus safety jacket may or may not tell you to get off your bike. At which point you're either going to be able to ride around him and not look back or you have to get off and walk your bike but when that happens the ped path is usually too crowded to get anywhere on a bike anyways. It is more of a safety issue for the people walking and ****ty bikers than it is an anti bike thing.

I ride my bike everywhere on campus and don't ever get yelled at, so it isn't even that big of a deal.
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the garbage plate is only enjoyable if staggeringly drunk, at 3am. othewise it's grotesque.
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Well, it was only 10 PM and I was sober, but it was so bland it wouldnt have been enjoyable at any hour...

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I am so glad that my fair citys garbage plate is what it is best known for. I agree, though, the sauce isn't that spicy, you should really add red hot and ketchup to your plate.

BTW, did you go to the original Nick Tahoes in the sketch neighborhood? The one that closes at like 6 because there were too many shooting there. And yeah, it does help if you have had one too many drinks right before.
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There are a lot of good things about Rochester, though it is so poorly governed that the 'worst case' was chosen every time they had a choice to take alternate paths.

There are some excellent museums, good food (the farmers' market is a joy) and very nice bike trails. No, you can't ride in the winter though they do sell snow tires for bicycles!

The car situation is dire. I would like to commute to RIT by bike but it is simply too dangerous in the last third, otherwise I'd take the bus to U of R and bike the rest of the way in.

anyway, if you did take the job here, I hope that you enjoy it. Park Avenue iarea s the best place to live by far.

I could never understand the local pride in Wegman's. It's a grocery store, not an art museum.
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Mark's Texas Hots!

And Wegman's is not just a grocery store, its an amazing grocery store. After living in Philadelphia and Washington, I want nothing more than to shop at my damn Wegman's again. Hurry and move further south Danny Wegman.

If I had to move upstate again, Rochester is the only city I would move to.
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**** yes nick tahou's **** yes. get your ass in there (NOT the one on lyle ave, that one sucks) and talk to bobbie and order your damn garbage plate and finish it. if you are not consuming a garbage plate a week after six months of rochester life you will never fit in. and screw your marks texas hots, thats where everyone goes who doesn't know good food when they smell it from a block away.

+1 to full moon vista...if you're coming into the city from the south then just go straight on south street until you arrive. it's impossible to find, they need a better sign. The mechanic there is the greatest, and no one is all bike-shop-employee pretentious.

there is never any traffic in the city.

it gets cold. learn how to ski or ice skate.

move to park ave. scurran knows his ****. if you can't afford park ave, then just DO NOT move into the 19th ward. if you hear anyone say they live in the 19th ward, ask them where exactly they live and then avoid the area.

if you mountain bike, go to the dryer road mountain bike park in victor. victormtbc.com has all your info. it's awesome.

you must visit both the memorial art gallery/original university of rochester AND craft company no. 6. they're both on university ave, there's free parking at the mag and it makes for a great afternoon.

for your birthday/girlfriend's birthday/anniversary/funeral/graduation party/celebration of any sort, eat at 2 vine, east of the city a mile or so. i would say it's the most phenomenal situation in regards to food in the city. bring lots of money.

if you have to go to the mall, don't go to the irondequoit mall. it sucks. go to the eastview mall.

mercury posters on monroe ave is so sick. go there and talk to the owner about posters, you will be amazed. the dude has gotten rich off of poster collecting.

drink at least one can of Genny Light beer.

don't swim in the gennessee. don't believe anyone who tells you that you can develop photographs in it either.

unless you are homosexual and looking for pickup sex, DO NOT respond in any way to any man who asks you anything about a rochester trolley. there is no trolley. if you respond to this question in any form, it will be taken as sexual innuendo. avoid.

the gennessee valley golf course is cheap and awesome. go there if you like to golf.

if you see anyone wearing RIT gear, yell and throw things at them (kidding)

if you ever find yourself on the gennessee river valley path into the city on the west side of the river (dinosaur bbq side), do not go into the abandoned warehouse with all the broken windows. i can't tell you why, but it's common sense anyways, so don't do it.
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I'm going to be in Rochester in two weeks to check out RIT while my girlfriend checks out Eastman (grad school shopping time, yay!). Anybody there have any advice on a route to ride from Eastman to RIT? I obviously don't know the roads there at all.
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I'm going to be in Rochester in two weeks to check out RIT while my girlfriend checks out Eastman (grad school shopping time, yay!). Anybody there have any advice on a route to ride from Eastman to RIT? I obviously don't know the roads there at all.
I got you. Go from Eastman (gibbs st.) to main st. and turn left.
go like two or three blocks and turn left on south st.
go down south st. (which may be one way in the wrong direction, but who cares) until you reach the split for the inner loop (490, 390, 590, basically anything ending in 90).
stay RIGHT, there is a bike path that goes under the overpass through a construction zone. This bike path goes all the way down the river to the university of rochester river campus. you'll go past a big housing tract thing on your left, then down a very quiet two lane road (wilson boulevard).
wilson boulevard leads right into UR, go up the slight hill and go straight through the traffic circle. you will end up at the wilston blvd. at elmwood ave. cross this road into the genesee valley park.
ride through the park, you'll cross a bridge over the canal if you stay on the park road, which ends at a stop sign. Make a right and then that first left which is about 10 feet after the right. Go on this road until you reach the park gates (on your left). you are now at river road.
turn right on river road. this road will get you very close to RIT, in a few miles. it's a nice ride, cars have always given me a ton of room.
River road leads to a giant intersection (the first traffic light you'll see). Go straight.
RIT is a few hundred yards down the road on your left. Good luck trying to find the building you want, they all look the damn same.
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There is a much easier way to get to U of R by bike (and RIT too.)

From your start at Gibbs Street: Take East Avenue or University to Alexander Street. Head south on Alexander Street til you reach the Genessee Valley Park. The bike trail runs along the river. There is absolutely no need to go down South Street or into any construction zones.
You can take this path to the Erie Canal path and one branch ends on River Road. You can then turn right on River Road and head to RIT.

I got all the way down there today from Park Avenue in about forty minutes and I am a very slow rider.
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This is how I would do it: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=294664

RIT is kind of a jerk to get to on a bike from the East side, because W. Henrietta is the only big through road over there, and it is just an awful road for biking. The route I linked is almost all bike paths and side streets, except for River itself.

Word up to the Rochester diaspora!
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Unless south street has become super muffed in the last month or so, that is how I would get to the top of the u of r bike path. Sorry to add yet another possible route, but that just seems to have always been the fastest.

just fair warning for your RIT future: RIT is connected to the world via jefferson, scottsville and w. henrietta (15). None of these roads by RIT (other than scottsville heading to the boonies) are any fun to ride on as they are basically highways with stoplights (2 lanes each way, 45+ mph speed limit). East River Road + U of R bike path, is the best bike connection to the city. South of RIT are a lot of long low traffic streets that have loads of rolling hills and farms, I'd imagine they are more fun on a road bike than on a fixie with my 48-17 gearing (well, i'm not personally really into mashing my way uphill). A lower gearing would probably be a nice thing to have for some of the routes.

Other notes: Riding in the city is easy and fun as traffic is minimal and drivers tend to have a good eye for bikes, as the bums do everything wrong that can be done on a bike. streets are flat. police aren't a problem etc.

Oh yes, it has not been mentioned yet, but there is a store called Beers of the World. BEERS of the WORLD. It is by far the hugest beer store I have ever seen. A lovely place to waste some time.
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There is a much easier way to get to U of R by bike (and RIT too.)

From your start at Gibbs Street: Take East Avenue or University to Alexander Street. Head south on Alexander Street til you reach the Genessee Valley Park. The bike trail runs along the river. There is absolutely no need to go down South Street or into any construction zones.
You can take this path to the Erie Canal path and one branch ends on River Road. You can then turn right on River Road and head to RIT.

I got all the way down there today from Park Avenue in about forty minutes and I am a very slow rider.
i am NOT digging this route. it has less turns, but is way longer and the roads are not as nice to ride on as the paths.
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Rochester....I'm up in there...currently NY's homicide capital...stay safe


for anyone in the Driving Park ave. area, there's a little home run used bike/repair shop about 10 houses up on the right if you turn up the hill off of Lake Ave....'s called Bikeman or something, but all you see is a house and a sign...I caught the mean flat on the cousin's sturmey archer 3spd, and found that place as I was asking around

bonus...for those that like phatties...cordial lounge on lyell ave.

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Winter cycling in upstate is fun, and when you get to your destination you are looked upon like a foul weather god.
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Dude - Rochester does have some good places to bicycle in.

Road (great routes) and mtb (they're working on mtb trails - nice one opened in Victor), however if you got the itch there's a couple bunches of people who ride tuesday (TUNA) and thursday nights (TdB) year round.

Plus I'm in the RBC and we currently have 350 maps/rides that are being used this year by our very busy schedule -something for everyone.

It isn't Moab or a nice tour de europe - but Rochester does have some dam fine rides.
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