The Shadow Conspiracy chain and unidirectionality
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The Shadow Conspiracy chain and unidirectionality
Fairly recently, someone posted in the picture thread that the Shadow Conspiracy chain was extremely dangerous for track/fixed gear bikes because it was supposedly a unidirectional chain. I asked for proof, but as far as I can tell it was never given. Still, I am interested in whether or not there is any truth to this. Thoughts, anyone?
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It certainly looks directional, but I doubt it as well.
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it raises a good point with their chains being unidirectional, may be a problem for those that ride backwards, really fast, but in the force under backpressure/skidding i don't feel its a factor.
i've run the chain the other way- don't ask it just happened one late night...rode it a full week before correcting the error with no problems whatsoever, so yeah show me the proof of them being dangerous as well-
i've run the chain the other way- don't ask it just happened one late night...rode it a full week before correcting the error with no problems whatsoever, so yeah show me the proof of them being dangerous as well-
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ok, heres the deal. The Shadow chain is only uni-directional in bmx applications because it prevents the chain from splitting if you grind on it or land on the chain/sprocket. Also since bmxers are running smaller gearing now (28x9 etc) it helps the chain run smoother in the suggested direction. Unless you are getting real gnarly on your fixed, there should be no problem running that chain. I have it on my BMX and can vouche for its quality..
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^ +1
All the BMX kids that say their shadow chain broke in the first week didn't install them correctly.
Its a good chain, but prone to stretch.
All the BMX kids that say their shadow chain broke in the first week didn't install them correctly.
Its a good chain, but prone to stretch.
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FD,
As stated, it only applies if you are doing grinds. So, the uni-nazi's can be assured, all is well in FD's application.
They are really tough cahins and it certainly is a godsend to those that have vertical drops and want to run single or fixed. I have one on my mtn. bike and it is allowing me to run single speed without a singulator or the like.
As stated, it only applies if you are doing grinds. So, the uni-nazi's can be assured, all is well in FD's application.
They are really tough cahins and it certainly is a godsend to those that have vertical drops and want to run single or fixed. I have one on my mtn. bike and it is allowing me to run single speed without a singulator or the like.
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question: are these sentences true?
"using a shadow conspiracy chain makes horizontal drop-outs unneccesary for fixed-gear applications. virtually any frame with any gearing can be made into a fixed-gear with a shadow conspiracy chain."
"using a shadow conspiracy chain makes horizontal drop-outs unneccesary for fixed-gear applications. virtually any frame with any gearing can be made into a fixed-gear with a shadow conspiracy chain."
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I would think that with nothing but half links, you can vary the length of chain to within a half inch, and get pretty damn close to correct chain tension with almost any gear ratio.
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with proper tension (read: slack) you'll be fine using it on your track/conversion.
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Originally Posted by boots
question: are these sentences true?
"using a shadow conspiracy chain makes horizontal drop-outs unneccesary for fixed-gear applications. virtually any frame with any gearing can be made into a fixed-gear with a shadow conspiracy chain."
"using a shadow conspiracy chain makes horizontal drop-outs unneccesary for fixed-gear applications. virtually any frame with any gearing can be made into a fixed-gear with a shadow conspiracy chain."
after a few days because the chain was already loose and the axle was hitting the end of the dropout.
with the shorter chain the axle was right at the beginning of the dropout (I have very short horizontal
dropouts) but now it is almost in the middle again.
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Originally Posted by sohi
thats probably true for the first week because the chain stretches like hell. I had to take out a link
after a few days because the chain was already loose and the axle was hitting the end of the dropout.
with the shorter chain the axle was right at the beginning of the dropout (I have very short horizontal
dropouts) but now it is almost in the middle again.
after a few days because the chain was already loose and the axle was hitting the end of the dropout.
with the shorter chain the axle was right at the beginning of the dropout (I have very short horizontal
dropouts) but now it is almost in the middle again.
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That was the hardest chain ever to put on till we started using real tools like channel locks not crappy chain tools.