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Old 04-28-06, 11:54 AM   #1
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anybody know a lawyer

this is the deal...I got hit & run by some ******bag, called the cops and filed a report and all that, we got his liscence plate and car and everything. now i just need to get a lawyer so I can sue the ******* and at least get the money back for the new wheelset I had to buy because of this.

anybody know a guy who deals with car on bike collissions? anything anybody can give me would help.
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Old 04-28-06, 12:07 PM   #2
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get in touch with times-up
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Old 04-28-06, 12:07 PM   #3
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Open up the Philly phone book and make a few calls. Look for a PI atty
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Old 04-28-06, 12:10 PM   #4
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Allen rothenberg... do i know him? no not at all. But back when i was a student and watching a lot of daytime tv (pre-DVR), he had a lot of commercials. He has a tower (rothenberg tower?) on 15 or 16th and walnut. Oh and one of his attorneys was representing a family in a med malpractice suit when i had jury duty.

sorry i guess i don't have much useful info. The lawyers i know do other stuff.
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http://www.bicycleattorney.com/Pennsylvania.htm
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Old 04-28-06, 12:11 PM   #6
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From TA website, cycling lawyers...

Robert S. Fader, 800-796-5657, cyclelaw
@aol.com Barton Slavin, 212-233-1010,
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@nycattorneys.com Adam D. White, 212-577-9710, adam.white
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Gideon Orion Oliver, 646-602-9242,
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someone on here is an attorney as well. do a search.
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oo nice site. bookmark and hope i never need it.

i always wondered about this:

Q: Can I recover even if the motorist never hit me?

A: Yes. Many people are under the misconception that there has to be physical contact between a cyclist and a motor vehicle for the motorist to be liable. This is not true. There are many situations where cyclists are injured when they take evasive action to avoid being hit, and crash as a result. The motorist can still be held liable if their negligence required the cyclist to take the evasive action.


still wonder whether thats an easy proof in court
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Old 04-28-06, 12:17 PM   #9
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before you "sue the *******" contact his insurance company.
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Old 04-28-06, 12:25 PM   #10
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insurance companies are the best bet. they'll pay smaller amounts willingly to avoid going to court/getting sued. a couple thousand is usually pretty easy to get from insurance.
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Old 04-28-06, 01:01 PM   #11
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mucho gracias. this guy seems like a godsend right now.
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Old 04-28-06, 01:37 PM   #12
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I just wanted to step in and vouch for Stuart. I've talked to him some, and he seems like a real good guy. He also helps sponsor a bunch of races around the city (April Fools, I think some others...), which is pretty cool.
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If the guy took off, there's no way to contact the insurance company. He'll need to press charges first, then the guy might turn it over to his insurance company.
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This exact same thing happened to me. Got hit, not seriously though, but my bike's rear end and rear wheel took a big crunch. The guy ran a stop sign and nailed the back part of my bike. Luckily, I wasn't hurt bad. He even slowed down afterwards, not to see how I was doing, but to tell me to watch where I was going before speeding off. I got his license plate #, called the cops, even had two witnesses. I got called into the police station to identify him from a series of like 6 pictures and I couldn't do it. All of them looked almost the same. So, in the end the guy got away and I got no money.
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This exact same thing happened to me. Got hit, not seriously though, but my bike's rear end and rear wheel took a big crunch. The guy ran a stop sign and nailed the back part of my bike. Luckily, I wasn't hurt bad. He even slowed down afterwards, not to see how I was doing, but to tell me to watch where I was going before speeding off. I got his license plate #, called the cops, even had two witnesses. I got called into the police station to identify him from a series of like 6 pictures and I couldn't do it. All of them looked almost the same. So, in the end the guy got away and I got no money.

What? You got his license plate. Shouldn't that be enough to identify him?
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Shouldn't the lic. plate and witnesses be enough? How well are you supposed to remember a guy who you saw through shiny glass while your in pain and shock? It's been proven time and time again that eye witness identifications of people are very inaccurate. Seems like the cops just didn't care enough to take time out of their donut guzzling day to actually help.
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this is the deal...I got hit & run by some ******bag, called the cops and filed a report and all that, we got his liscence plate and car and everything. now i just need to get a lawyer so I can sue the ******* and at least get the money back for the new wheelset I had to buy because of this.

anybody know a guy who deals with car on bike collissions? anything anybody can give me would help.
Contact the lawyer first, do NOT contact the driver's insurance company. You could end up making a binding agreement w/out realizing it. (assuming you have his insurance info).

here's my opinion, for what it is worth as a 2yr law student:
the link you were given looks to be a good resource. you are right in wanting an attorney that has an interest in bicycling accidents as that attorney will have a better understanding of the application of the law specific to cyclists.

keep us posted and go get the b*****d driver!
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This exact same thing happened to me. Got hit, not seriously though, but my bike's rear end and rear wheel took a big crunch. The guy ran a stop sign and nailed the back part of my bike. Luckily, I wasn't hurt bad. He even slowed down afterwards, not to see how I was doing, but to tell me to watch where I was going before speeding off. I got his license plate #, called the cops, even had two witnesses. I got called into the police station to identify him from a series of like 6 pictures and I couldn't do it. All of them looked almost the same. So, in the end the guy got away and I got no money.
WTF???, you had his license number and eye witnesses, why did the Fker get off?
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I was the witness to this. The guy did the exact same thing as the post above - he slowed down and shouted "you ****ers gotta pull over!" and took off down arch. Complete ******* move. Anyway, Matt contacted that lawyer while I was rebuilding his wheel and set a meeting for monday. Matt's a good guy, he pulls 30 miles from the burb's and home and can't really afford to not be mobile. I'm hoping they nail this guy hard.

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WTF???, you had his license number and eye witnesses, why did the Fker get off?


I don't know about the original poster, but in my situation I could not identify the guy. The police called me down to the station the next week after my accident and showed me about 6 photos and they were all very similar looking. Even though I got the guy's license number and had witnesses, the guy got off. His excuse was that it wasn't even him driving the car and that he left it in the garage and any of his coworkers could have took it. Obvious BS, but couldn't do much about it. It would've cost me far more to get an attorney and go to court, than to just buy a new rear wheel and get the frame straightened.
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Its kind of the same reason tickets from cameras don't add points to your liscence. You have to prove who was driving in order to prosecute that person.
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I don't know about the original poster, but in my situation I could not identify the guy. The police called me down to the station the next week after my accident and showed me about 6 photos and they were all very similar looking. Even though I got the guy's license number and had witnesses, the guy got off. His excuse was that it wasn't even him driving the car and that he left it in the garage and any of his coworkers could have took it. Obvious BS, but couldn't do much about it. It would've cost me far more to get an attorney and go to court, than to just buy a new rear wheel and get the frame straightened.
Sounds like a few interviews at the office could settle that. I don't think the cops were trying very hard. This guy must have been well connected politically.

How could they think a hit and run victim would be able to identify the driver when he didn't stop? Sheesh!
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Shouldn't the insured party still be liable for anything that is attributed to the automobile in question? Maybe the insured should have better protected the automobile from the oh-so-common theft-return cycle. If your 9 year old neighbor drives your car down a bank into a river and dies, do you think you'll be held responsible? I'd be surprised to find otherwise...
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"i get hit by cars and walk away"

story of my life indeed...i ain't no joke
this is fantastic
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