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    suzue promax njs

    i just bought a pair, i noticed that there is a lil rattling or clicking sound when spin them by hand, could this be due to a slight binding or lack of grease? other wise these hubs are superb!

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    Open and investigate, report back.
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    yes! an investigation indeed.

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    if you try to jerk the axle up and down and get a bit of knocking.
    just tighten up the cups.

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    I have the same problem with mine (28 hole, so not technically NJS). I overhauled them, but it didn't make it any better. Some people love these hubs though, suggesting that perhaps its an issue of poor quality control.

    Promax tried to be in the middle between formula/surly and phil/campy/DA, but IMHO, they are the worst of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na975
    other wise these hubs are superb!

    Nuh-uh, they're suzue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genericbikedude
    I have the same problem with mine (28 hole, so not technically NJS). I overhauled them, but it didn't make it any better. Some people love these hubs though, suggesting that perhaps its an issue of poor quality control.

    Promax tried to be in the middle between formula/surly and phil/campy/DA, but IMHO, they are the worst of both worlds.
    Are your hubs the promax SB hubs or the juniors. I believe there is a difference in quality.

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    they are the loose ball , cone type. so far i took apart the rear hub to find that its missing two ball bearings! i wounder what to expect when i take apart the front hub????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigal son
    Are your hubs the promax SB hubs or the juniors. I believe there is a difference in quality.
    Jrs only come in 36 hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na975
    they are the loose ball , cone type. so far i took apart the rear hub to find that its missing two ball bearings! i wounder what to expect when i take apart the front hub????????????
    Just out of interest how do you know its missing two ball bearings? Do you have the Suzue spec sheet? Do you know how many bearings it should have on each side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    Jrs only come in 36 hole.
    eh?
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...roducts_id=594

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    theres a big ass gap the width of two ball bearings in the cup. and no matter how i adjust the play out of the cones , once i put the wheel in the rear frame dropouts and tighten it , theres major binding.no matter what i do i cant remedy it! SUX

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    Keep inserting balls until one is forced out and remove the last two. Magic!

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    what do u mean remove the last two? i think the axle is bent

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    The way to know how many bearings go in a hub is by the process I just explained. Remove the last two balls when one is forced out. This obviously assumes you have access to extra bearings of the proper diameter.

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    so you saying that not all the bearings are the same diameter, and thats why it would pop out and yes i have extra bearings that i bought for my bb, they seem to be the same size.

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    Umm..there are about 5 different bearings sizes. I doubt the bearings in your bb are the same size as in the hub. Generally, BB bearings are a bit larger.

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    tomorrow i will take the axles,bearings etc. from my DA rear hub and transplant it to the promax hub to what see changes.

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    i new better than to buy these! now i gotta a new pair cause there probably just defective and i got taken.

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    What 12XU is trying to tell you is that you should NOT have a solid ring of bearings on the inside of your hub. There is *supposed* to be a space (generally the size of 2 or 3 bearings) so that the bearings that are there can do their job, rather than binding up and trashing your hub.

    Quote Originally Posted by genericbikedude
    Promax tried to be in the middle between formula/surly and phil/campy/DA, but IMHO, they are the worst of both worlds.
    Claptrap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na975
    tomorrow i will take the axles,bearings etc. from my DA rear hub and transplant it to the promax hub to what see changes.
    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatano
    What 12XU is trying to tell you is that you should NOT have a solid ring of bearings on the inside of your hub. There is *supposed* to be a space (generally the size of 2 or 3 bearings) so that the bearings that are there can do their job, rather than binding up and trashing your hub.



    Claptrap.
    ok, now i understand!!!!!!! thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatano
    Claptrap.
    I'm not knocking your specific loose ball promax hubs. Maybe yours are just fine. All i know is that the races or cups or something on mine were a bit crunchy from jump, even after new bearings and an overhaul. I mean, they weren't TERRIBLE, but I expected a lot more. That's why I chalk it up to poor quality control.

    Not a fan of suzue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryhood
    well color me ********.....
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    after working on these hubs for better than 3 hours to find that sweet spot, i discoverd that the races in the rear hub are not perfectly round so that when the hubs spins ever so slightly,the axle scraping the poorly machined bore that the axle goes through. i took the axle out cleaned everthing, then ran some emery cloth through it to reduce burrs. I then repacked cups using( super lube) grease, this imo is D best lube. now its smooth and ready to be married to rims.

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