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    daily negativity:

    chain tugs.... hate 'em.

    is it really that hard to center a wheel with correct tension?

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    It's not hard. They just make it easier.



    They say NJS on them also. Bling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethalan
    It's not hard. They just make it easier.



    They say NJS on them also. Bling.
    i guess you just have to weigh the bling factor of NJS against the fact that they make your previously bling track-ends look like a bad art school installation

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    My UNO frame was 123 spaced so I should used them but I never did.

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    they make it a little easier to center + tighten a wheel when you don't have the luxury or working in a repair stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raygunner
    My UNO frame was 123 spaced so I should used them but I never did.
    can you explain that? i didnt know spacing had anything to do with it.

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    i'm thinking i'm going to need a pair for the surly since no matter how tight i wrench on it, the chain always, always ends up bouncy and slack. not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    can you explain that? i didnt know spacing had anything to do with it.

    The axle washer on the MKS chain tugs are 1.5mm thick each.

    1.5 + 1.5 = 3mm

    Many Keirin frames have 123mm spacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose R
    The axle washer on the MKS chain tugs are 1.5mm thick each.

    1.5 + 1.5 = 3mm

    Many Keirin frames have 123mm spacing.
    ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?

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    i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.

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    tensioning and centering are a lot more precise with tugs. they also prevent the axle from slipping, making readjustment less frequent.

    it's also a bit faster than the side to side tightning and loosening method

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?
    Uh, hub spacers?!

    Dude, I don't ride a conversion! Haha!

    But my point is that I never did use those silly MKS chain tugs. They'd never allow me to put the wheel all the way foward into the drops (know what I mean?). They subtracted from my fun. So on my UNO I just squeezed the extra 3mm together! Good times!

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    PS - I do like the new MKS chain tugs more since you can used your finger, there's no need for a hex wrench. I also used to like those Surly ones too since they're simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    ah.. i have heard that before.. but you could also just use hub spacers, ya?

    You could use bubblegum for all I care, but the point I was making is that some of the Keirin frames were spaced specifically for use of MKS chain tensioners.

    But my point is that I never did use those silly MKS chain tugs. They'd never allow me to put the wheel all the way foward into the drops (know what I mean?).
    Why would you need your wheel all the way forward in the track ends?

    MKS chain tensioners are useful. I never felt they hindered my ability to put my back wheel wherever I damn well pleased.

    i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.
    The MKS are nice and discrete. I can also tension my own chains, etc.

    The best system is the Paul Components track ends. My LBS mechanic loves them. The second best is MKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    i'm anti-tensioners. they're just clutter. i can tension my chain myself.
    i agree.

    my bell, and blinkin' light on my seatpost are two too many things complicating a simple track bike.

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    Oh no! Something functional! Hate! Hate!

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    Can I get them in anodized Gold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethalan
    Can I get them in anodized Gold?
    To match your new Suzue hubs

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    ****.
    Anodized frame *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~stella
    i agree.

    my bell, and blinkin' light on my seatpost are two too many things complicating a simple track bike.
    pshh.. your seatpost is unnecessary, and so are your handlebars. what kind of chump can't ride no handed while standing on the pedals all day?
    Sucks to your ass-mar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    chain tugs.... hate 'em.

    is it really that hard to center a wheel with correct tension?
    It's not "that hard" but it sure is nice to get dead-on precise chain tension and alignment effortlessly.
    "I owe everyone an apology" - hyperrevue

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    God, Hyper you are so ****ing lazy.

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    I got an NJS stamp, now my rack and fenders are NJS. Bling.

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    Oh yes, you *must* tighten your chain with a multi-step process that involves skill, time investment and practice. Otherwise, you're not true fixed-gear culture.

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    certain wheels will slide forward no matter the amount of dry humping involved during nut tightening. the mavic ellipse is one good example. i have used mine on various frames, made of various materials and have been able to produce a droopy chain within a few minutes of riding on each. the super smooth locknut surface probably has something to do with it.

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