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Old 05-20-06, 02:29 PM   #1
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anyone else's seat killing them?

or rather, anyone's groin f'cking killing them? seriously, this is probably how STDs feel.
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Old 05-20-06, 02:33 PM   #2
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Been there, done that.

I know your pain.
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Old 05-20-06, 02:40 PM   #3
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try changing the tilt of the seat forward a bit, then your butt-bones will get to ya
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Old 05-20-06, 02:46 PM   #4
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Juding by this picture of your bike i think i know the problem.

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its the THING!
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I love my ****ing seat.
So, no.
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Old 05-20-06, 03:07 PM   #7
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You need to make some changes. Groin pain should not be a part of cycling.
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Old 05-20-06, 04:11 PM   #8
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Saddle choice is a largely personal one. I've gone through about 15 saddles in the last 4 years trying to find the perfect one. I used a Flite for a long time it felt like I was sitting on a broomstick most of the time -- it felt horrible on my perenium.

I ended up with a Selle Italia SLR -- the antithesis to what I thought made a good long distance saddle and it ended up being the best saddle I owned until I bought a Gel Flow version (slightly more padding, with the center cutout). It's been amazing. I prefer very minimally padded saddles that are flat as opposed to something like the Turbo which feels like a big cushion to me (rounded, lots of padding).

I recently acquired a Fizik Arione which feels much more padded but for riding at the track and short distances feels really good to me with it's long length which allows for a lot of movement forward and backwards on the saddle.

I've tried various Brooks (not mine though) and they seem really comfortable and what I look for in a saddle: minimal padding, conforms to your butt.

Saddle position is also everything. Make lots of little minute adjustments. I've spent up to two hours in a parking lot riding around dialing in fit on a new saddle.
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Old 05-20-06, 04:14 PM   #9
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My Brooks Team Pro is that way.
Install it so it looks correct: Taint Pain of the highest order.
Tilt it forward and I feel like I'm sliding off of it and supporting too much weight on my wrists. I've been riding a lot more than usual this week and I finally had to take it off because it was too much.
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Old 05-20-06, 04:16 PM   #10
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when the support in the middle of my iro saddle gave out, i started getting serious pain in my testes. i tried tilting the seat forward, but it put additional strain on my arms (and my legs to a lesser degree) i switched to a fizik arione ti, and the pain disappeared, as well as the numbness and hotspots i was accustomed to. a quality saddle that jives with your anatomy is definately worth the scratch.
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Old 05-20-06, 04:26 PM   #11
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i used to have a lot of pain and peed a little blood before i switched to a cutout, so i feel your pain.

i was quite relieved, however, to find out my symptoms came from my saddle and not some skank
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Old 05-20-06, 04:36 PM   #12
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this is probably how STDs feel.
Only one way to find out..
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Old 05-20-06, 05:11 PM   #13
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i had pee all the time, i mean like every second. i went to the doctor he thought it was my prostate(that was fun) i tilted my seat some, its better but still sucks.
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no.

brooks and a kashimax (padded) and my ass feels fine. the kashimax is actually getting more comfortable the more i ride it (put about a month on it)
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Old 05-20-06, 05:23 PM   #15
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I would get really uncomfortable on padded saddles, so I stripped all the padding off an old Flite and have enjoyed it ever since. The plastic shell flexes enough to keep my plumbing comfortable. After several hours in the saddle my sit bones can get sore, but that's a lot better than peeing blood

Oh, and I recently got a Brooks Swift, but I've been having the same problem as thurstonboise above. Hopefully when it's all dialed and broken in things will be gravy.
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Old 05-20-06, 06:09 PM   #16
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ive been kind having the same problem with my brooks its way comfartable i just feel like i cant put it far enough back im gonna get a set back thomson and try that beacuse i really like my brooks
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Old 05-20-06, 07:29 PM   #17
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Only one way to find out..
that better be a come-on.
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Old 05-20-06, 07:30 PM   #18
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getting the right saddle might help, but most likely adjusting the position on your existing saddle is all you need. Start at level. use a carpenters level. then adjust it in small increments from there until it's comfortable. if you're getting numb nuts, tilt the nose down a bit. if you're having to push back to keep from sliding forward, tilt the nose up a bit. It depends upon the saddle for me, and to a lesser extent to the bar position, but generally I find I like the saddle level, or just nosed down a touch from level.
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Old 05-20-06, 07:42 PM   #19
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Juding by this picture of your bike i think i know the problem.

Painful yes, but it would record a rumbling colon with amazing fidelity.
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Old 05-20-06, 07:44 PM   #20
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getting the right saddle might help, but most likely adjusting the position on your existing saddle is all you need. Start at level. use a carpenters level. then adjust it in small increments from there until it's comfortable. if you're getting numb nuts, tilt the nose down a bit. if you're having to push back to keep from sliding forward, tilt the nose up a bit. It depends upon the saddle for me, and to a lesser extent to the bar position, but generally I find I like the saddle level, or just nosed down a touch from level.
That's what I tried, and I realized that my seatpin doesn't have enough fine tuning for my Brooks.
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thurston - you know you can adjust the tension of the leather in the brooks by fiddling with that bolt at the tip of the saddle, right?
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Old 05-20-06, 09:04 PM   #22
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i've been riding a fizik arione for the past week, and have been liking it a lot. lycra shorts are also awesome. i'm generally positioned on my sit bones and haven't had any problems (knock on wood).
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I'm on a cheap Cannondale saddle a dude at the LBS sold me off of his bike. It rocks. Only thing that sucks is that this is a conversion, and the original HUGE bolts on the seat-holdy-thing (i'm tired, give me a break) keep tearing my pants up, so now like 5 of my pants have holes in the ass.

However, it still rocks. Hard
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My Brooks Team Pro is that way.
Install it so it looks correct: Taint Pain of the highest order.
Tilt it forward and I feel like I'm sliding off of it and supporting too much weight on my wrists. I've been riding a lot more than usual this week and I finally had to take it off because it was too much.
Well the Brooks cult says that just isn't possible. Though they may try to argue your saddle is too high or something.
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I started with a well-padded Bontrager saddle that was OK. Then I moved to a Fizik Pave of sorts, which was better, but really only got fully comfortable when I got a Performance Forte SLX saddle. Thin, minimal padding, cutout, my ass is in heaven. Perfect weight distribution on my sit bones. I actually find myself mostly lusting after the full carbon saddles now - you know, like the Selle Italia C64 or the M2Racer saddle. Of course, I type this post while sitting in my 90-year-old armless, unpadded oak banker's chair that I find more comfortable than any padded chair I've ever sat in in my life, so maybe I'm just biased towards a lean seat.
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