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Old 05-22-06, 12:20 PM   #1
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NYCBikes CityFixed...

Am I the only person who thinks the NYCBikes CityFixed frame is cool? I'd love to have one -- truth be told, some of it might just be the uniqueness of having an NYCBikes bike out here on the west coast. Anyone know if it's a good frame? Worth the money?
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Old 05-22-06, 12:23 PM   #2
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I am going to leave my response to this.
1. Search and find how much they are unloved.
2. The frame is good. Bought one and it is a good ride
3. The customer service with those guys is so beyond horrible it is not worth your time and or money. Stay very very far away from those guys. That is it. PM me if you want the whole story. or search my posts because I posted it
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the IRO jamie roy is the same frame, right?

IRO is cooler.
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Old 05-22-06, 01:06 PM   #4
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It's a nice frame for the price. I've got a 59cm in their clear coat which is actually beige/goldish. It did come without logos which I prefer.
People have a lot to say about the customer service. I didn't have too much trouble but I picked up the phone to call them. I wouldn't even bother with their web site or eblow auctions. I'm pretty sure that's where a lot(but not all) of the problems stem from.
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Old 05-22-06, 01:12 PM   #5
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I'm pretty sure that's where a lot(but not all) of the problems stem from.
I'm fairly certain that is not true.
At any rate, do a search for NYCBikes and you'll learn a lot.
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Also It's not the same as the Jamie Roy. They may have been the same at some point, the drop outs are quite a bit different. The CityFixed look a bit nicer, but the Jamie Roy has fender and rack eyelets.
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Old 05-22-06, 01:52 PM   #7
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I bought a nycbike and they punched me in the face over the internet. No kidding.
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NYC bikes are famous for inconsistent welding.
Meaning, on some bikes they simply forgot to weld one side of a joint. I have also seen ones where they remembered to finish the joint.

This is poor quality control. Which simply means that you have an inconsistent product attached to a consistent brand name. If you think brand is important you might as well take sides in the cola wars. NYC bikes is just a particularly crappy aluminum frame from one of the less good factories of the PRC.

Why is it worth your attention? Becasue you fell for the ads.

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NYC bikes is the bike equivalent of cakelove. Cakelove is a bakery started by warren brown, a unsucessful lawyer and diletante baker who started a bakery in DC. He always introduces himself as "I'm waren brown I used to be a lawyer and I gave it all up to become a baker". Now, I appreciate the sentiment, but he also is hapy to accept the claim of being the best baker in DC. This is patently false. Anyone who charges enough money for their cakes can use real butter, chocolate and milk and anyone who uses htese ingrediants is going to make good stuff. But the fact that he was a lawyer does not make the cakes better than anyone else. It is just that he is a white collar worker rather than a blue collar worker. He know how to market and thus people are willing to pay forty dollars for a cake.

The same is true of NYC bikes.

The company is the brainchild of an out of work actor who got by by selling police auction bikes. Having someexperience with refurbishing bikes, I know this is not a money making enterprise unless you do some serious corner cutting. It don't think he has changed his ways. I was interested at first but then I realized that he is simply putting the same old parts one crap frames and selling them for more thana regular bike.
I don't know, maybe the stickers are really expensive.

With the customer service problems on top of them I would wonder why anyone would want to have anyhting to do with them. The only benefit I can see its that with local offices they ought to have great customer service.

Just buy a giant or a Fuji, you are gona get a much better bike for less.
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Old 05-22-06, 02:02 PM   #9
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BTW, IRO is the exact opposite. Tony is a great guy, the bikes are great and they are cheap.

Buy a ****ing IRO and you will be free to ride instead of hunched over your screen.

I swear it is the end of all the arguments here. They people that know just say quit worrying and buy an IRO.
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BTW, IRO is the exact opposite. Tony is a great guy, the bikes are great and they are cheap.

Buy a ****ing IRO and you will be free to ride instead of hunched over your screen.

I swear it is the end of all the arguments here. They people that know just say quit worrying and buy an IRO.

+1 for IRO and Tony
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Definitely give Tony and IRO your business. I was chomping at the bit to get a bike built, had a timeline picked out and IRO just didn't have any inventory. Now that I have a fix, I'll be able to expend a little more patience next time around.
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Old 05-22-06, 05:10 PM   #12
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Omg Wtf Iro Ftw Gtfo Nycb
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I have their cross frame, and it sucks big booty balls.
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Old 05-22-06, 07:26 PM   #14
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RedDeMartini, We have disagreed many times in the past, but this time I can't agree with you more.

+1 for Tony and IRO too
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Old 05-22-06, 07:43 PM   #15
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+10000000 for IRO. I've had really good dealings with them, and you rarely hear anyone say any different. There's probably a reason for that. Conversely, you often hear horror stories about NYC Bikes. Probably a reason for that too.
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Old 05-22-06, 08:48 PM   #16
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If you want something that'd be rare on the West Coast, get a Mark V from Tony at IRO, scrape off the decals and get some decals made up that say "iamtim" and you'll have the only iamtim fixie on the planet.
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first...a review of the cityfixed: fixedgeargallery.com

second...yes, tony (tony arms on bikeforums) is ****ing awesome. nice guy, helpful. not defensive and ******** like nycbikes. iro is not the absolute cheapest place for some things (see greatdealsonbikes.com for track wheels) but i would still give him my business cause he has more wheel options (i've only ordered wheels from him) than most places (color, fixed/fixed vs. fixed free, hub spacing, machined vs. non machined, etc.).

to me, it's no contest...iro over nycbikes. YOU HEAR THAT WILL!!!, it's not just about the bikes.
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(see greatdealsonbikes.com for track wheels)
machine built, though, which matters to some people. as opposed to tony's handbuilt-by-velocity wheels.
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Has Tony taken over Sheldon in the cosmic fight for Bike Forum love?

I waited 8 months to get my IRO if that says anything.
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Really?! Wow. I got my frame in 2 days. Maybe I just lucked out.
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All hail tony........All hail tony (Thread Takeover!)
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no loss of love for Tony/IRO, and I really didn't expect this to turn in to an IRO vs. NYCBikes thread. I just ordered (and installed) a set of hubs, a cog, and a lockring from Tony, and the experience was stellar.

From the sounds of it, though, the only way I'd (now) consider an NYCBikes frame is if I went to their store in NYC and could check it out before purchase. I would have had no problem getting one over the 'net before this thread, so thanks to you all.

Since my chances of getting to NYC are just about nil, it looks like an NYCBikes frame is right out for me. When I seriously start looking at new frames, that is.

Thanks again.
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You know your **** is hot when the title of the thread is NYCBikes City Fixed and all they are talking about it IRO. Go IRO +1
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Since my chances of getting to NYC are just about nil, it looks like an NYCBikes frame is right out for me. When I seriously start looking at new frames, that is.
Yeah as far as I know it's a decent frame, but nothing stellar. The best thing about them seems to be that they come in a bout a million powder coat colors. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to own one. and the stigma that NYC Bikes carries for crappy customer service is more than enough to make me want to steer clear of doing business with them.
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