Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-26-06, 01:30 AM   #1
helvetica
Wake Up America!
Thread Starter
 
helvetica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Leandro, CA
Bikes: Bridgestone MB-1, Expert Dave Scott, Balance MTB
Posts: 417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Bedliner Paint?

Has anyone sprayed there bike with spray on bed liner? No scratches thats for sure.
helvetica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 01:43 AM   #2
MLPROJECT
make way for the MGL
 
MLPROJECT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NEW YORK
Bikes: khs aero track
Posts: 1,927
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
your bike will look like **** though
MLPROJECT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 03:22 AM   #3
Sin-A-Matic
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Bikes:
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, it would be great in beater applications. You could knock it around as much as you want and it wouldn't get scratched. I'm talking the rubber spray on liner here though, not that hard crap with the sharp particles in it. That would suck.

Seems like it would add a lot of weight.
Sin-A-Matic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 05:17 AM   #4
stevo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 997
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
Well, it would be great in beater applications. You could knock it around as much as you want and it wouldn't get scratched. I'm talking the rubber spray on liner here though, not that hard crap with the sharp particles in it. That would suck.

Seems like it would add a lot of weight.
i thought the whole point of a beater was to not care about scratches. Of course, i think frettin about scratches is silly in general. Bikes (and p'up beds) should look used!
stevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 06:22 AM   #5
B10Cycle
Permanent Amateur Mark
 
B10Cycle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Bikes: Specialized Allez, Nishiki MTB
Posts: 349
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
How about that stuff they dip tool-handles in? Not my style, but if this is what you're into...

http://www.plastidip.com/industrial/plastidip.html
B10Cycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 12:13 PM   #6
mikorp
Senior Member
 
mikorp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: hayes
Bikes: none
Posts: 677
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
will weigh a ton! like rubber dip. chrome is tuff as hell.
__________________
mikorp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 12:42 PM   #7
SpiderMike
eert a ekil yzarc
 
SpiderMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pasadena TX
Bikes: many bikes
Posts: 2,558
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
For a bike application, it would make since to just coat the bottom of the downtube, and/or, the backside of the seat tube. If/when I get my truck bed lined, I've thought about masking off the bike for them to coat those areas. I heard Rhino liner keeps an elastic property after its dry.

I joke about coating my entire truck. Wouldn't worry that much about people keying the truck, or opening their door either. as I said I keed, I keeed.
SpiderMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 12:50 PM   #8
Landgolier
THIS SPACE FOR RENT
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 2,849
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Plasti-dip is heavy, but makes a good ding-guard. There's some other crap called liquid electrical tape that's pretty much the same thing.
Landgolier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 01:09 PM   #9
lz4005
coasterbrakelockup
 
lz4005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: parts unknown
Bikes: surly steamroller w/coaster brake, electra single speed cruiser, specialized rockhopper commuter, no-name single speed folder, 700c ultimate wheel, 24" unicycle, specialized bmx lsd, single seat single speed huffy tandem, pink upsidedown parade bike
Posts: 825
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by B10Cycle
How about that stuff they dip tool-handles in?
I put a bunch of that on my beater/commuter, both to guard against scratches and to cover ugly decals (under the clearcoat so I couldn't scrape them off). Mainly on the sides of the top tube where it leans against racks. Works a treat, and I was able to find some that matched the paint color.
lz4005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 07:02 PM   #10
helvetica
Wake Up America!
Thread Starter
 
helvetica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Leandro, CA
Bikes: Bridgestone MB-1, Expert Dave Scott, Balance MTB
Posts: 417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiderMike

I joke about coating my entire truck. Wouldn't worry that much about people keying the truck, or opening their door either. as I said I keed, I keeed.

Ive seen this done to several 4x4s
helvetica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-06, 11:42 PM   #11
griffin_
griffin_
 
griffin_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: phila
Bikes: raliegh "too lazy to make my own" rush hour
Posts: 728
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i key every hummer i see
griffin_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 08:14 AM   #12
MrCjolsen
Senior Member
 
MrCjolsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Davis CA
Bikes: Surly Cross-Check, '85 Giant road bike (unrecogizable fixed-gear conversion
Posts: 3,957
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
You could also tell roadies it's the new "unobtanium" alloy that is lighter and stronger than carbon fiber, but only available on track bikes.
MrCjolsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 02:15 PM   #13
helvetica
Wake Up America!
Thread Starter
 
helvetica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Leandro, CA
Bikes: Bridgestone MB-1, Expert Dave Scott, Balance MTB
Posts: 417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
You could also tell roadies it's the new "unobtanium" alloy that is lighter and stronger than carbon fiber, but only available on track bikes.

do roadies like ultra light weight stuff so they dont have to use any muscle?
helvetica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 02:29 PM   #14
wearyourtruth
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Baltimore
Bikes:
Posts: 2,729
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
this was discussed a while ago on the MTB forum, and it was pretty much the same concensus... it would be quite heavy, but really bombproof, and no one actually got it done.
wearyourtruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 03:36 PM   #15
MrCjolsen
Senior Member
 
MrCjolsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Davis CA
Bikes: Surly Cross-Check, '85 Giant road bike (unrecogizable fixed-gear conversion
Posts: 3,957
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by helvetica
do roadies like ultra light weight stuff so they dont have to use any muscle?
Don't even get me started on roadies and bike weight.
Too late. You already did.

As a roadie myself, I ride a 26 pound bike. It was comfortable, on sale and within my price range so I bought it. I think my mtb was lighter (I've recently sold the mtb as I never rode it, liking my older, heavier one better).

Anyway, I cringe every time someone (usually overweight themselves) picks up my bike and says "dang, that things heavy." And worse, they expect me to give a s***. One of the major reasons I don't like riding with people.

A lot of roadies think they will go faster on a lighter bicycle. The truth is that everything else being equal, 10 pounds of weight, either on one's bike or on one's butt makes about a half a percent difference in speed. That's less 1/10 of a mph. Or 30 seconds in a 40 km race or time trial. The problem is that 10 pound difference will cost thousands of dollars at a bike shop. That might be money well spent if that 7 seconds means the difference between first place and second place and the difference between having a pro racing career and not having one.

But very few roadies fit into that category, especially ones who have trouble fitting into their spandex. It actually makes me sad to see these middle aged people spend thousands of dollars on carbon fiber featherweight racing bikes when they would be much better served by a steel framed touring, cross, or audax bike. Such a bike might weigh a bit more, but would be considerably more comfortable and have eyelets for racks and clearance for fenders. The latter point is important. Far more road bikes see service in centuries, tours, and charity rides than in road races, criteriums and time trials. To be able to mount fenders and racks means you can (gasp) ride when the weather's crappy and actually have a destination.

I get annoyed when I walk into a bike shop and I see a nice long row of racing bikes or low end faux racing bikes and not a single touring or cross bike. I've been to countless Trek dealers, and I have never actually seen a Trek 520 touring bike. Specialized doesn't even make a true touring bike nor does Giant, I believe. I could be wrong.

So, in answer to your question, yes and no. And if anyone has any snappy comebacks for "dang, your bike is heavy," please let me know.
MrCjolsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 03:49 PM   #16
MillCreek
BF Risk Manager
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish County, Washington USA
Bikes: Road, mountain and folding
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
I get annoyed when I walk into a bike shop and I see a nice long row of racing bikes or low end faux racing bikes and not a single touring or cross bike.
+1 to that, or commuter bikes, too. I have a nice road bike (traditional geometry aluminum, carbon fork/stays, full double Ultegra), but in my mid-40's, I am clearly not a racerboy nor trying to be one. With the sort of recreational riding that I do, it would make no sense whatsoever to spend several hundred or thousand more to eliminate a few grams. I have a full suspension MTB for singletrack and general lollygagging about, but I would love to be able to go to a LBS and actually see a Breezer or a Burley Runabout or any one of a number of other practical bicycles. Good luck doing that in this area.
MillCreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 03:59 PM   #17
thurstonboise
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boise, Idyho
Bikes: '04 fisher 29er, NYC Bikes CityFixed
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
It actually makes me sad to see these middle aged people spend thousands of dollars on carbon fiber featherweight racing bikes when they would be much better served by a steel framed touring, cross, or audax bike.
While I agree with this statement, you need to remember those fat guys keep the LBS in business. If they weren't going in spending thousands every week, we'd all be ordering everything from Nashbar.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
So, in answer to your question, yes and no. And if anyone has any snappy comebacks for "dang, your bike is heavy," please let me know.
I can buy a new bike, you'll always be stupid, ugly or whatever else fits the description.
thurstonboise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 04:34 PM   #18
wearyourtruth
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Baltimore
Bikes:
Posts: 2,729
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
But very few roadies fit into that category, especially ones who have trouble fitting into their spandex. It actually makes me sad to see these middle aged people spend thousands of dollars on carbon fiber featherweight racing bikes when they would be much better served by a steel framed touring, cross, or audax bike. Such a bike might weigh a bit more, but would be considerably more comfortable and have eyelets for racks and clearance for fenders. The latter point is important. Far more road bikes see service in centuries, tours, and charity rides than in road races, criteriums and time trials. To be able to mount fenders and racks means you can (gasp) ride when the weather's crappy and actually have a destination.
i say if spending a few thousand gets them a bike they are happy with and gets their fat asses out riding than more power to them. you shouldn't give a sh*t any more about how much their bike weighs than you want them to care about yours. to each their own

and there are plenty of people, especially here in the fixie forum, who don't have fenders or a rack who ride all the time when the weather's crappy and have a destination


and i think the best comeback to someone saying your bike is heavy is to whip their ass on the road/track/trail
wearyourtruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 04:35 PM   #19
dutret
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: GA
Bikes:
Posts: 5,317
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
It actually makes me sad to see these middle aged people spend thousands of dollars on carbon fiber featherweight racing bikes when they would be much better served by a steel framed touring, cross, or audax bike. Such a bike might weigh a bit more, but would be considerably more comfortable and have eyelets for racks and clearance for fenders. The latter point is important. Far more road bikes see service in centuries, tours, and charity rides than in road races, criteriums and time trials. To be able to mount fenders and racks means you can (gasp) ride when the weather's crappy and actually have a destination.
How would they be better served by a touring bike? They will probably never ride in the rain. Even riding a unsupported century does not make racks useful. They hardly ever have a destination when they ride.

For the type of riding they do do(25-100mile weekend rides) a cf road bike with the bars at saddle height is perfectly acceptable for even if it is a little bit of overkill.

Also I was under impression that most bike shops made the majority of thier profits with service not new bikes. For instance charging the customer $75 for a tuneup that that takes a $10/hr employee 45 min to do and requires another $10 worth of supplies.
dutret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-06, 07:26 PM   #20
Dogbait
lunatic fringe
 
Dogbait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miles from Nowhere, Columbia County, OR
Bikes: 1980 Schwinn World Sport, 1982 Schwinn Super Le Tour, 1984 (?) Univega Single Speed/Fixed conversion, Kogswell G58 fixed gear, 1987 Schwinn Super Sport
Posts: 1,111
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by helvetica
Has anyone sprayed there bike with spray on bed liner? No scratches thats for sure.

If you're gonna haul firewood, it's the only way to go.

Dogbait
Dogbait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-06, 04:14 AM   #21
SD Fixed
Traffic shark
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Posts: 4,612
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
The stuff you can buy for home applications, i.e. herculiner, isn't worth the collective effort to put it on a bike frame right. If you don't do it exactly to the letter of the instructions, it will peal. And worse than that, once it does, it will peal all over, except in spots where it will apply so hard it's imposible to remove with out some serious chemical help or bead blasting. For roughly 100 dollars, you can have spray on bedliner applied in a non aggresive texture, and it will be pretty durable.

However, cleaning it up is a pain in the ****ing ass. It will stain, etc. And if you're heavily into asthetic, or lightly, you won't be happy. And once, it's done.. its done. No changes.

Just an FYI.

I have a friend who did it. He's happy with it, and it works pretty well. He did it on a SS MTB that isn't all that fancy. Came out nice.
SD Fixed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-06, 04:55 AM   #22
ImOnCrank
Yay!11! I has!!!1
 
ImOnCrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastcoast
Bikes: Cocaine the white stallion, Custom Witcomb pista, (Being restored) 80's Pogliaghi Track, (destroyed) RAP Round Breeze NJS, Cannondale Jekyll 900, 84/5 Pinarello Montello (all italian)
Posts: 1,659
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
[B]And if anyone has any snappy comebacks for "dang, your bike is heavy," please let me know.
So's my dick. Either that or club him like a baby seal and bury him in a shallow grave.
__________________
Bloodstains, speed kills, fast bikes, cheap thrills, French girls, fine wine...
ImOnCrank is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:04 AM.