Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 21 of 21
  1. #1
    Get on your bikes & ride! xB_Nutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Lextown
    My Bikes
    See signature (it varys day to day)
    Posts
    1,071
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Pake, Surly Steamroller or Soma Rush

    Which one should I go with? I'm going to build up my first fixie and have narrowed it down to these 3. The Pake seems to be the best value, but am I missing something? The Rush is sweet with it's higher end steel, but at a price premium. The Steamroller is right in the middle price wise and has a little more relaxed geometry. I'd mainly be using it to commute 8 miles each way to work. What do you think?

  2. #2
    King Among Runaways hyperRevue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    MKE
    My Bikes
    2004 Bianchi Pista, Cannondale Track, Soma Pake, Schwinn Breeze
    Posts
    4,215
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Go with the nicer frame, Soma Rush.
    "I owe everyone an apology" - hyperrevue

  3. #3
    Me talk pretty one day. eyefloater's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    2,073
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Welcome to the forums. All these bikes have been discussed time and time again. If you check the search feature (up at the top) you can read people opinions on each frame. Good luck w/ your search.

    That being said, my commuter is a Pake. It's cheap, fun to ride and heavy. If you're just looking for a daily ride skip the Rush, save the bigger bucks for your NEXT fixed gear bike. The Steamroller is also a decent frame ... it might be easier for you to get your hands on since Surly is owned by QBP, a supplier that almost every bike shop deals with.

  4. #4
    King Among Runaways hyperRevue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    MKE
    My Bikes
    2004 Bianchi Pista, Cannondale Track, Soma Pake, Schwinn Breeze
    Posts
    4,215
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Search is disabled.
    And, for what it's worth, I don't love my Pake.
    "I owe everyone an apology" - hyperrevue

  5. #5
    Get on your bikes & ride! xB_Nutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Lextown
    My Bikes
    See signature (it varys day to day)
    Posts
    1,071
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by hyperRevue
    Go with the nicer frame, Soma Rush.
    This coming from a guy with a Pake? Are you regretting not ponying up for the Soma? That's kinda what I'm worried about, but tend to always want more than my wallet can afford...

  6. #6
    King Among Runaways hyperRevue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    MKE
    My Bikes
    2004 Bianchi Pista, Cannondale Track, Soma Pake, Schwinn Breeze
    Posts
    4,215
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's hard to say.
    I don't particularly like the ride of the Pake, kinda heavy and clunky.
    At the same time, it's stuck behind two other, and nicer, bikes in my rotation.

    I was looking at the Rush before I decided on the Pake as a nice "back up" bike.
    It's hard to say whether or not the Rush would be ridden very often if I had gone that route.
    "I owe everyone an apology" - hyperrevue

  7. #7
    Get on your bikes & ride! xB_Nutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Lextown
    My Bikes
    See signature (it varys day to day)
    Posts
    1,071
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sorry about the search thing. I have done some reading here on all three separately, but thought I would get a fresh look from a thread talking about all three together...

  8. #8
    Me talk pretty one day. eyefloater's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    2,073
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    **** it, track bikes are bull**** anyway.

  9. #9
    Senior Member ka12na's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Syracuse, NY
    My Bikes
    Fuji Track 06, Fuji Delrey conversion
    Posts
    549
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    IRO MV Frame?

  10. #10
    Get on your bikes & ride! xB_Nutt's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Lextown
    My Bikes
    See signature (it varys day to day)
    Posts
    1,071
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ...oh and thanks for the quick feedback.

  11. #11
    Me talk pretty one day. eyefloater's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    2,073
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by xB_Nutt
    ...oh and thanks for the quick feedback.
    What are you riding right now? What have you ridden in the past?

  12. #12
    wild like children.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    huntington beach CA
    My Bikes
    pake track bike
    Posts
    113
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I just started riding a new pake 3 weeks ago, I was upgrading from a miyata 210 conversion. My initial impressions on the pake: nearly no wight difference between my conversion and the pake maybe the pake frame is 1/2pound lighter, having a higer bottom bracket is a huge improvement, the frame is suprisingly stiff, that's where i noticed the biggest change from the conversion.
    All that said the pake is just a place holder till i can scrape enough cash together for a bareknuckle.
    "the wind blew the leaf and the leaf thought "i can fly"

    myspace

  13. #13
    (((Fully Awake))) Serendipper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    ~Serenading with sensous soliloquies whilst singing supple sentences that are simultaneously suppling my sonnets with serenity serendipitously.~ -Serendipper
    My Bikes
    Guerciotti Pista-Giant Carbon-Bridgestone300- Batavus Type Champion Road Bike, Specialized Hardrock Commuter, On-One The Gimp (SS Rigid MTB/hit by a truck)- Raleigh Sports 3-speed,Gatsby Scorcher, comming soon...The Penny Farthing Highwheel!
    Posts
    5,598
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    There's a question you don't hear everyday....

    Soma.

  14. #14
    Geek Extraordinaire sivat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Long Beach, CA
    My Bikes
    Bianchi Advantage Fixed Conversion; Specialized Stumpjumper FS Hardtail
    Posts
    1,769
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I would go with the steamroller. The relaxed geometry will make for a more comfortable commute. especially if its 8 miles each way.
    I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

    Sintesi Conversion Serotta Track

  15. #15
    jack of one or two trades Aeroplane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Suburbia, CT
    My Bikes
    Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
    Posts
    5,635
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by sivat
    I would go with the steamroller. The relaxed geometry will make for a more comfortable commute. especially if its 8 miles each way.
    If you're considering the 'roller, you might as well consider the IRO angus. Tubing comparable to the Soma, a bit more relaxed geo, and the price is nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Irwin Goldstein
    Men should never ride bicycles. Riding should be banned and outlawed. It is
    the most irrational form of exercise I could ever bring to discussion.

  16. #16
    . bbattle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Huntsville, Alabama
    My Bikes
    2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Trevisio, 1991 Colnago Master, '06 Bianchi San Jose, 1987 Moulton Fuso, '80's Gardin Shred?, '82 John Howard(Dave Tesch)
    Posts
    11,644
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The trouble with the Search function is old threads get resurrected and old wounds get fresh salt.

    Who wants the Natty Fab thread back?

  17. #17
    Senior Member piratelove's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    RVA
    Posts
    723
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I'd say go with the Soma. I went from my conversion to a Soma Rush, and I looove it.

  18. #18
    如果你能讀了這個你講中文 genericbikedude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    3,542
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My soma is great. If I had two fixed gear bikes, I'd perhaps have an steamroller and a fancy track bike, but a soma is perfect for having only one fixed bike. Geometry good and tight, but not stupid tight. Nice and nimble but not crumply and I don't get scared for it.

    I wouldn't get the pake. If you want something heavy, you may as well get something that can take fenders and 32s that can be taken off-road.

  19. #19
    Senior Member mattface's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Montpeculiar, VT
    My Bikes
    Soma Rush, Fuji Cross, Raleigh Technium Mtn Bike, Ross 10 speed with Shimano 600.
    Posts
    3,951
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here's another happy soma rider. I ride mine every day. I can't really compare it to the Steam roller or the Pake since I haven't ridden them.

    As for the geometry. I think it feels great on the street, responsive, stiff light, it begs to be sprinted at the slightest provocation, and turns teleptthically. I buzz through a tight traffic circle almost every day, and the Rush with 170 cranks is the only bike that I have never struck a pedal in that circle. Conversly it could be considered whippy. If you want a stable ride, you want to be able to load up a rack, or some panniers, the steamroller might be a better choice for commuting.

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Oklahoma
    My Bikes
    Pake fixie. Klein Reve (for sale, http://www.theveer.net/gordons_klein)
    Posts
    389
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If the bike will spend the day outside on a rack, get a Pake. There's less worry about putting mongo chains and U-locks on straight gauge CroMo, a few stratches and rust specks won't spoil it, and you won't be devastated if someone nabs it (although I would be devastated if someone took mine). Performance is fine, and then some. My exercise loop is 30 miles, and Pake is more than up to it. OTOH, if you have a safe, sheltered stash at work, wedge out for one of the pretty bikes.

  21. #21
    Senior Member sfcrossrider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    San Francisco
    My Bikes
    Steelman eurocross, Surly CrossCheck, IRO Rob Roy...
    Posts
    2,760
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You might also look at the Surly CrossCheck. I had mine since 99 and it's been built as a... Mountain bike, road bike, fixed/ss, cross racing bike, ride to Santa Cruz bike, ride ALL over the city every day bike.

    Because of my Surly I'm down to only two built bikes (my other bike is a Bontrager road bike built with retro campy record. It's my "you think your bike is pimp/kick your butt in a crit" bike).

    I keep my surly built as a cross bike. Makes switching from road to MTB to cross easy. I can swap the rear wheel and the chain and go fixed/ free in under an hour with prep and beer time.

    All that said... you can't go wrong with either bikes. I think I would build the SOMA.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •