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    slime tubes vs. slime strips vs. armadillos

    So yeah, I've been in southern Arizona for the last few months and riding around the streets...commuting and the like. I ran 23c Specialized All-Condition Armadillos for the first five months without incident-- not a single flat. I eventually replaced them (one at a time) with a Vredestein Fortezza SE in the rear and a Conti Ultra GatorSkin up front. Since then I've had a whopping four flats, all from wayward cactus thorns. Those thorns are some nasty ****-- rock hard and incredibly sharp.

    Would Slime strips or tubes fare much better if used with my new tires? I figured the Fortezza wouldn't be real flat resistant, but to be honest I expected Armadillio-like performance out of the GatorSkin (after all, it's marketed as one of their most puncture-resistant tires).

    Believe me, I would have gone with the 'dillos again but I was curious to try other tires in the hope of finding something a little more round / sticky. I've never used the Slime strips or tubes on a road bike-- do they give performance comparable to a set of Armadillos?

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    From what I understand Slime products suck. They're heavy and the gain is nowhere near close to worth it. This is strictly hearsay though. I've never used them myself.
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    Ive used slime liner up front for about half a year, I ride through glass on a daily basis. never gotten a flat until i was at a kegger and some ****s decided to flatten my tires..(im going to glue glass and metal shards to the valves next time) I think they held up and im not a total weight freak, extra weight means extra muscle.
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    go with what works.

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    i tried the slime strips out and can honestly say that they made zero difference in my frequency of flats.

    with armadillos, i flat maybe 2-3 times a year.

    i've since ditched them for tires with better traction, using rubinos for a long time, and now using a set of gatorskins, which i find too sticky and hard to skid on.

    i'm thinking of switching back to an armadillo in the rear for summer riding.

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    i havent had any flats since putting the slime liners on, hasnt been that long but i have ridden through some glass and what not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chip thunder
    From what I understand Slime products suck. They're heavy and the gain is nowhere near close to worth it. This is strictly hearsay though. I've never used them myself.
    They did give me a laugh once. A mom put Slime (tm) in her daughters' tires then inflated them at a gas station. KAPOW!! Just before the Front Range Century at that. I directed her over to the bike repair station set up by Self Propulsion of Golden, colorado.
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    All I know is that slime tubes are awful to work with, and by god that stuff can smell terrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by helvetica
    (im going to glue glass and metal shards to the valves next time)
    Not only does that sound like a bad idea, I think it's illegal!

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    Do NOT put any kind of goo or liquid inside your tubes. It never seems to work for keeping you from getting flats, and it is the nastiest thing to work with.

    I aired up the tires on my boss' old road bike recently for him, and when I checked the pressure, a fine mist of fermenting tire slime misted into the air when I bled some air out. It made my hands smell like a corpse for the rest of the day. I honestly can't imagine what you would do to deflate a slime-filled tube without getting all icky.

    I also worked at a tire shop one summer in high school. Now and then I would be unmounting a tire on the machine (which holds the tire horizontally, like a record player) and as the lower bead broke loose, a puddle of rank, sticky, foul-smelling decomposing tire slime would slosh all over my feet. NOT pleasant!

    Just find good tires and/or liners and leave the tube the way they are supposed to be!
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    Here's a radical idea. Would a cloth rim strip tapped to the inside of your tire offer any protection? They protect your tube from the nasty sharpness of your spokes and nipples, they should protect it from other direction as well.

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    I've tried quite a few different tires and tire combinations.

    I have never had a front flat, but I have had cuts in my front tire that I thought would eventually lead to a flat.

    I find that a Continental Four Seasons Grand Prix in front with a Specialized All Conditions Armadillo in back serves me very well on streets with glass and construction trash.
    I have not had a flat with this combination in over a year.
    I like the stickiness of the Conti Four Seasons and the toughness of the Armadillo.
    Sticky in front and tough in back.

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    For the last year and a half I've been mixing my tires. I run a Gatorskin in the rear for a bit more cush and the flat protection (I like the stickyness personally -- in wet weather and in the winter, it's really nice and once it's skidded, loses some of that stickyness) and a Fortezza up front for the feel and higher pressure. I rarely ever flat the front so I'm fine with running the nicer tire up front and a sturdy one in back. This provides me with a really nice feel all around on the bike.

    I've only had two flats with this combo in the last year and a half due to a large construction staple and a 1/4 inch shard of glass. It works out well for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cox
    Sticky in front and tough in back.
    +1 (though i'm not doing that at the moment)

    anyhow...i'm saying armadillos. i've used slime and it just never really seemed to do much. you can't really patch a slime tube.

    mr. tuffy's and armadillos, though...that might be a better idea.
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    Solid tires. It's the only answer. I think Sheldon sells them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunning
    gatorskins, which i find too sticky and hard to skid on.
    +1
    it drove me nuts getting use to them.

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    Personally I've had very few flats from glass, maybe one. almost every single flat I've had was a bent nail/tack or heavy staple. but I guess you can see a pile of glass, you can't really see that one little peice of metal that gets ya.

    edit: oh and I've used the slime goo stuff before. all it did was gunk up my pump valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
    Here's a radical idea. Would a cloth rim strip tapped to the inside of your tire offer any protection? They protect your tube from the nasty sharpness of your spokes and nipples, they should protect it from other direction as well.
    where do you get ideas like this? rim strips work by physically separating your tube from the spokes, preventing them from bulging into the holes in your rim.

    radical idea = get armadillos or gatorskins or mr. tuffy strips or any other chunk of aramid polymer between your tire and your tube. it works. really ****ing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachS
    where do you get ideas like this? rim strips work by physically separating your tube from the spokes, preventing them from bulging into the holes in your rim.

    radical idea = get armadillos or gatorskins or mr. tuffy strips or any other chunk of aramid polymer between your tire and your tube. it works. really ****ing well.
    OR get a kevlar belted tire..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZachS
    where do you get ideas like this?
    Velox rim strip = $2.50
    Continental Gatorskin = $39.00 (right now, online at Performance. My LBS has them a bit cheaper)

    I have some almost new tires that came with some rims I bought. They have no flat protection and I'm just looking for a cheap way to put them to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slopvehicle
    So yeah, I've been in southern Arizona for the last few months and riding around the streets...commuting and the like. I ran 23c Specialized All-Condition Armadillos for the first five months without incident-- not a single flat. I eventually replaced them (one at a time) with a Vredestein Fortezza SE in the rear and a Conti Ultra GatorSkin up front. Since then I've had a whopping four flats, all from wayward cactus thorns. Those thorns are some nasty ****-- rock hard and incredibly sharp.

    Would Slime strips or tubes fare much better if used with my new tires? I figured the Fortezza wouldn't be real flat resistant, but to be honest I expected Armadillio-like performance out of the GatorSkin (after all, it's marketed as one of their most puncture-resistant tires).

    Believe me, I would have gone with the 'dillos again but I was curious to try other tires in the hope of finding something a little more round / sticky. I've never used the Slime strips or tubes on a road bike-- do they give performance comparable to a set of Armadillos?
    Think about what you just said.

    1. I used to have some tires that worked well for me and never punctured.
    2. I tried some different tires but they kept getting thorn flats.
    3. Should I try something different?

    You already know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12XU
    OR get a kevlar belted tire..
    kevlar = one example of an aramid polymer. some other belted tires might use spectra or other **** like that. was just being precise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12XU
    OR get a kevlar belted tire..
    kevlar = one example of an aramid polymer. some other belted tires might use spectra or other **** like that. was just being precise. although i should have said "between your tread and your tube".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCjolsen
    Velox rim strip = $2.50
    Continental Gatorskin = $39.00 (right now, online at Performance. My LBS has them a bit cheaper)

    I have some almost new tires that came with some rims I bought. They have no flat protection and I'm just looking for a cheap way to put them to use.
    please don't tell me they let you teach science classes.

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    -100000000000000000000 for slime tubes. Worst tubes ever.
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