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Old 06-18-06, 08:49 PM   #1
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Tires for Skidding

ok, in skateboarding all the urethane wheels come in a range of hardness. Harder wheels skid better and softer wheels "stuck" better. You'd pick different wheels if you were on pavement/masonite etc...

I'm assuming that bike tires also come in a range. I know it'd be risky as hell to run a front wheel that could skid out easily, but what's my best bet for a rear wheel - if I dont care about cornering in the rain, I just want to lock up and skid for blocks.
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Old 06-18-06, 08:52 PM   #2
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I hope you have a front brake and aren't seriously asking how you could increase your stopping distance to "blocks."
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A common discussion around here...
Vittoria Rubino Pro
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Old 06-18-06, 09:04 PM   #4
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I hope you have a front brake and aren't seriously asking how you could increase your stopping distance to "blocks."
well, we're talking about 2 different bikes - the everyday bike is outfitted with both the front brake and good tires for cornering in the rain. then i've got the other bike and a couple extra wheels down in the basement and was looking to swap a new tire into rotation because - why not?
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Old 06-18-06, 09:23 PM   #5
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Soma everwear. It's pretty hard, plus it's like 3 times thicker on top then your average tire (5mm) so it lasts forever.
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Do you want to stop quick or skid long?

Sounds like you may want to go tireless. Bare rims are great for getting long skids.

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Old 06-19-06, 04:10 PM   #8
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i use those vittorias.. those things wear out too quick.. i dont have that much money
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Old 06-21-06, 10:25 AM   #9
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best tires for skidding = old ones from your local bike co op
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Old 06-21-06, 10:37 AM   #10
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i use those vittorias.. those things wear out too quick.. i dont have that much money
word. i think i'm done with rubinos for the time being. i started using them because people seemed to like them, they were cheap, and came in nice colors. over the course of a year of riding them, i found them to wear down to the kevlar belt pretty quickly, and once they get those worn patches in them, lose stopping power, and flat more frequently than i would care for (and i would care to flat never).

they're also very stiff tires and are hard to get on the rim. i've driven myself crazy and hurt my hands changing rubinos on the roadside on cold days (even with plastic tire irons). gatorskins, while being close to too sticky for my preferences, always go on easily. i can push them on with my thumbs alone.
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A common discussion around here...
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You better be right. I'm trusting those vaginas at Trackstar who recommended the Rubino Pro to me a month or two ago. If that thing wears down from skidding, I'm going to be very pissed off. I'd say I've had it on for a month & a half now...
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Old 06-21-06, 02:56 PM   #12
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i've skidded my way to three of my victories on Vredestein Fortezzas. They're super easy to break from the pavement, great control, and high tire pressure.
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i've skidded my way to three of my victories on Vredestein Fortezzas. They're super easy to break from the pavement, great control, and high tire pressure.
yup. the tricomps are amazing. they make the greatest sound while skidding as well.
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i have about another week or two on this ****ty ricorso until i get to finally throw on my blue fortezza tricomp. mm mm mm
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yup. the tricomps are amazing. they make the greatest sound while skidding as well.
**** yes. super sweet sound. my favorite clincher tire ever. and always on sale at performance for $20-30. too bad they wear out so fast. last summer I was going through a pair every month.
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Old 06-21-06, 04:57 PM   #16
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You can get them much cheaper. Probikekit.com sells them (in lots of colors) for $17 each, and they have free shipping all the way from England. At that price, buy a bunch and skid away. You get a price cut the more you buy.
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I hope you have a front brake and aren't seriously asking how you could increase your stopping distance to "blocks."
Best. Response. Ever.
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for those who want to skid w/ some good friction, stop quick....Michelin Speedium...good rear tire

i got a Michelin Carbon up front, Speedium in the back...i like the combo
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**** yes. super sweet sound. my favorite clincher tire ever. and always on sale at performance for $20-30. too bad they wear out so fast. last summer I was going through a pair every month.
Wow!Are you skidding non stop? How do you have the tire wear down in as little as a month? I payed 110 for my set of tri comps from an lbs, so they better last more then a month. Im praying for a full season outta them.

Anyways they really are the best there is, havent had a single puncture with these on, and riding with them for a few months,( maybe 3?) in nyc shows they are some durable rubber.
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i ****ing hate fortezzas. they skid through faster than any other tire that i've ever owned.
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what you need to do is find any tire then skid on it for a few. make sure its rubbed down a bit in different spots. not too much but just enough. now your ready to compete. show up to the comp switch the tire then skid to a championship. good luck. peace.

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just to clarify, i think he was asking about tires that will permit mega-skidding, i.e., be slippery.

seems like a lot of the responses are talking about tires that will last a long time, i.e., be tough.

two different qualities, no?

but then, maybe if a tire had both qualities, it would be worth knowing about. carry on.
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i ****ing hate fortezzas. they skid through faster than any other tire that i've ever owned.
seconded.

the craziest skidding tire i've owned was a super old vittoria form the basement of a shop. probably 30 years old. the rubber was so freaking hard. it skid forever.

which made me wonder. if you could somehow "cook" a tire, hardening it. say, in a low temp kiln, for 200 degrees overnight.

but for the real world. skid length - i'd vote armadillos, cause the rubber is a bit harder, however the ride is the farthest thing from "performance", more like "economy", or "solid rubber". any great performing tire will have trade offs, in terms of skidding. rubino's are the best of all worlds i've used.
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yeah armadillos rule i just wish they felt better there wicked hard but havent had a flat in 5 months
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Wow!Are you skidding non stop? How do you have the tire wear down in as little as a month? I payed 110 for my set of tri comps from an lbs, so they better last more then a month. Im praying for a full season outta them.

Anyways they really are the best there is, havent had a single puncture with these on, and riding with them for a few months,( maybe 3?) in nyc shows they are some durable rubber.

yeah, I was doing quite a bit of skidding for ****s&giggles when I was learning. If you're riding in an area with out too much glass, they'll last you a while, but chicago street really tear the **** out of them. glass and nails everywhere. they're still the best clinchers I've ever used for practical reasons. you shouldn't have too much trouble getting a season out of them, as long as you stay away from the sharps.
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