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Old 07-09-06, 09:58 PM
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Bullhorns? Flop and chop or stock?

Okay, thought this was a good question for the fixie forum (even though I have not made the leap to SS yet). You can mock me later, but answer this question first.

What better, do a flop and chop on drop bars or buy stock bullhorns?

I ride up top, rarely low, so I was thinking of going with bullhorns. I still have brakes to contend with so the bars have to work for that.

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I've never bought a pair of bullhorns. (Except for my Nitto 021, but those you can't flop/chop)
My vote is 100% flopping and chopping.
Just scrounge through the used bid at your LBS and take a hacksaw to them.
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Never flop 'n chopped a pair of 'horns, but let me tell you that the Profile Design Airwing bars are quite nice. I get 4 hand positions with them, and they don't look half-bad (after you tape 'em up, that is). And the cable routing is great for a bar end lever.
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Buy something cheap, like the Syntace ones that chucksbikes.com had for $12 (they might still). Manufactured bullhorns are longer than flop/chops, and many are angled in neat, comfortable ways.
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If you want to run TT levers, flop and chops aren't going to work, but if you have normal suicide-levered old road brakes you can take the suicide lever off and use them. Chop up some old shizz to try it out, and if you like it you will probably like reall 'horns more
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Originally Posted by chicagoamdream
Buy something cheap, like the Syntace ones that chucksbikes.com had for $12 (they might still). Manufactured bullhorns are longer than flop/chops, and many are angled in neat, comfortable ways.
Nope, prices were raised to $16 and they're out of stock for now.
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I've had flip and chops for about 2 weeks now, running brakeless, and they're great. Kinda short, but not a big deal. I think the Syntace bars, (like I originally wanted), would look nicer, and have more hand positions, but mine were $6. Eh.
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A few buddies of mine run flip and chops, but they seemed a bit small for me. I picked up a set of the Profile Design Stoker 26 bullhorns and I like them. I also picked up a set of the Nashbar 'horns when they were on sale for $9.95, just as a backup.

The *only* problem with the Stokers is they are flat with a little upward turn in the ends. I've been looking at the horns that drop down a bit a little outside of the stem.
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Originally Posted by Landgolier
Chop up some old shizz to try it out, and if you like it you will probably like reall 'horns more
That's a pretty rad idea. Try before you buy. Thanks Tim (I used to live in LH off of central/LH Blvd.)

I'm off to bargain bin hunt. Thanks for all the tips.
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I've never seen a set of steel bullhorns (doesn't mean they don't exist, but they are rare) so if you are picky about your bar material this could be an issue.

Oh, and I snapped a pair of Nitto bullhorns in half a few days ago.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
I've never seen a set of steel bullhorns (doesn't mean they don't exist, but they are rare) so if you are picky about your bar material this could be an issue.

Oh, and I snapped a pair of Nitto bullhorns in half a few days ago.
Which model? Under what circumstances? I'm ordering a bike soon and planned on upgrading to nitto bullhorns. I tend to be hard on parts have broken a couple stems and a couple bars(drops, aero-bars) in my day. Had a great pair of syntace(or where they profile) bullhorns back a few years on my tri-bike, love bullhorns but now I'm worried about the nitto's, should I be?
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Originally Posted by iamtim
A few buddies of mine run flip and chops, but they seemed a bit small for me. I picked up a set of the Profile Design Stoker 26 bullhorns and I like them. I also picked up a set of the Nashbar 'horns when they were on sale for $9.95, just as a backup.

The *only* problem with the Stokers is they are flat with a little upward turn in the ends. I've been looking at the horns that drop down a bit a little outside of the stem.
The Nitto Rondeunner (sp??) make great flop/chops.
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Originally Posted by el twe
Never flop 'n chopped a pair of 'horns, but let me tell you that the Profile Design Airwing bars are quite nice. I get 4 hand positions with them, and they don't look half-bad (after you tape 'em up, that is). And the cable routing is great for a bar end lever.

I have these and like them a lot. (Silly me, I originally bought them to run with aerobars as a tri-bike set up.)
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Originally Posted by chillywater
Which model? Under what circumstances? I'm ordering a bike soon and planned on upgrading to nitto bullhorns. I tend to be hard on parts have broken a couple stems and a couple bars(drops, aero-bars) in my day. Had a great pair of syntace(or where they profile) bullhorns back a few years on my tri-bike, love bullhorns but now I'm worried about the nitto's, should I be?
I'm not sure of the model but the ones that IRO sells. It appears to me that the stem was just clamped on tight enough to deform the metal (although any looser and the bars would slip). In general I found the bars to be a little bit too flexy, which may have contributed to their ultimate failure.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
I'm not sure of the model but the ones that IRO sells. It appears to me that the stem was just clamped on tight enough to deform the metal (although any looser and the bars would slip). In general I found the bars to be a little bit too flexy, which may have contributed to their ultimate failure.
Don't like the sound of that, getting an IRO also. Guess I'll get the stock drops and find some other bullhorns or maybe do the mentioned flop and chop.
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i was using flip chops until this week. they just seemed too short, i always wanted to put my hands a little further forward. i just got those $10 nashbar bullhorns in the mail and i love them already. they drop a little bit and extend out further.
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Airwings are badass, but mine are creaking when I skid/skip or hammer out of the saddle. I probably just need to re-grease them. I don't like AL creaking noises.
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i'd say go with a new pair of bullhorns, even if it's a cheap pair. i did a chop and flop to my road bike drops, and while i liked the more upright position, they kind of made my hands go numb because they weren't long enough. now i'm back to drops (and gloves)
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I've had Airwings, Syntaces and flop and chops and prefer the flop and chops. They are curvier and have shorter horns which means they tend to flex less. I don't really like the extended flat area on most bullhorns. That said if you are getting store bought ones, I like the 38cm Syntaces which curve back to you in the flat area. Those are really comfortable for me at least.
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I used flopnchops for a while, but they pinched my median nerve (made my fingers tingle). I just could'nt get a good hand position with them. I think it had to do with the fact that there was too little bar stiking out forward and the palm of my hand was always on the bend. I've never used legit horns, but they are longer and woulda solved my problem. I use drops now and have no problems....
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Chop and flop if you have a spare set of handlebars and you just want to check if you dig the set up. Then you can go all crazy with the upgrades if you do.
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