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Old 08-09-06, 06:48 AM   #1
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Butchered my Brooks...

I did this over the weekend with my rotory tool. It's a B5N. What do you think?




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Old 08-09-06, 07:27 AM   #2
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I liked it better before.
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Ugh, you shoulda just bought a Swift and left that gorgeous factory drillum intact.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:43 AM   #4
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more like slaughtered.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:47 AM   #5
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I like the way you tied the flaps together.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:50 AM   #6
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looks good.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:54 AM   #7
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Looks great from the bottom. Bad from the side. Therefore- the best way to show off the seat
while riding is to run over people.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:56 AM   #8
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Looks great from the bottom. Bad from the side. Therefore- the best way to show off the seat
while riding is to run over people.
lol, yeah...I've been trying to think of a way to clean up the edges. Also debating on keeping the wings or cutting them the rest of the way off.
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Old 08-09-06, 07:58 AM   #9
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dude, not good. not good at all. just sayin'. . . .
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Did you see how it looked by only lacing up the bottom before cutting?
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We need a profile veiw, post-lacing.
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Old 08-09-06, 08:44 AM   #12
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The whole thing will be a LOT stiffer with the flaps, so if that's what you want keep them. If you want them tucked out of the way better so that they don't ruin the profile, moisten the flaps, then jam a 2x6 in between the flaps and the rails and let it dry that way. That will crease the flaps nicely.
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The whole thing will be a LOT stiffer with the flaps, so if that's what you want keep them. If you want them tucked out of the way better so that they don't ruin the profile, moisten the flaps, then jam a 2x6 in between the flaps and the rails and let it dry that way. That will crease the flaps nicely.
just damage control at this point, but sounds like his best bet....

lesson learned though, I hope.

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Enh, to each his own I guess. I thought the original looked like a pelican's beak. Thanks to everyone bein' honest though. I appreciate that.

Do you think it'd look better if I matched the arch on the left side of the wing with the right a little more?
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Old 08-09-06, 09:24 AM   #15
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just damage control at this point, but sounds like his best bet....

lesson learned though, I hope.

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Butchering can be done with very nice results. The real lesson is to be sure not to cut more than you want, because you can't put it back. I'm not sure how TheDL feels about his results, and I would like to see a profile post lacing, but in my opinion the only thing wrong with the job is that he took a little too much off the front. I would have matched the front more to the arc of the back.

Marking before you cut is essential to getting an idea what it will look like before anything irreversible happens, as well as providing a guide for cutting. If you're leaving flaps, make a tape line as though the flap was coming off. it should be a slight arc from the nose to the tail, just like if the flap was gone. then mark where the flaps go.

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Old 08-09-06, 09:42 AM   #16
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...I would have matched the front more to the arc of the back.

Ah, I see it now. Yeah...perhaps that would have looked a bit better. I did take a pencil to it before goin' to town on this bad boy. The rear cut was harder to visualize post-butcher.
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The thing that always looks off to me when I see chopped Brooks saddles is the huge gap between the leather and the rails.
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i think that's part of the aesthetic. question though: anyone have any good ways of stripping the rubberized coating on the B17 rails?

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i think brooks saddles look nice chopped, but i really don't like the look of that. i would have probably just laced it before i cut into it myself.

but to each his own. the worst that will come out of this is a new saddle, right?
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I want to see a profile shot. One perfectly straight on and level.

That front scallop cut very deep into the top of the saddle and has thrown the saddle out of proportion
It's only supposed to be slightly downhill and in a pretty straight line..not curved down.
The rear cut isn't gradual enough, too long, and doesn't appear to rise high enough ..should rise up to about the midline of that lowest rivet about half the distance into that cut
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If you post a profile view (straight on and level with flaps tied tightly) I'll try it out on PS to give you a diagram on how to make look better
It won't look like a swallow because too much has been taken away ..but it will look better.
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Oh man! I have a brooks saddle just like it. It's never nurt me and I would never hurt it.
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that profile view *IS* post-lacing... right?
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Old 08-09-06, 10:47 AM   #24
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Yes.

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If you post a profile view (straight on and level with flaps tied tightly) I'll try it out on PS to give you a diagram on how to make look better
It won't look like a swallow because too much has been taken away ..but it will look better
I'll try to get that for you. I'd be interested to see what you come up with.
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looks a little rat-chewed to me. I have seen some nice cut jobs, but man that's one fugly saddle you've made.
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