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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 08-14-06, 12:47 AM   #1
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why do SS bikes need two brakes? why doesn't the front brake suffice?
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Old 08-14-06, 01:09 AM   #2
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It usually does except on ice, but a backup system is always a good idea.

I guess you know that and that's why you made 6 backup threads...
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Old 08-14-06, 11:01 AM   #3
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i have a ss and i have only a front brake. it seems adequate and i think i will be fine as far as braking power once i get a set of kool-stop pads on..but the only thing that worries me is fliping over the handle bars during an emergency brake....so i thought about getting a rear brake...im not conviced on getting it yet..
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Old 08-14-06, 11:44 AM   #4
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Being able to stop both wheels is safer than just one. Cables, levers, etc break, so it is good to have a backup.

I finally got around to putting a front brake on my coaster brake Steamroller after a year of riding. Check the flange on the Sturmey Archer drum.
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unless you encounter that emergency situation (like Saga) where you must brake hard or bite it bad, it probably won't be a big deal (just shift your weight back a bit).

However, because a single brake up front will not sufficiently cause all that weight+momentum behind it to slow evenly and as a result you may dive over your handle bars upon a sudden stop (if you have a good brake)...that would suck...I did that when I was like 10 and i still laugh about it (it is evenmore funny in slowmo memory) but dang it sucked at the time.

Seriously, I think the responsible answer is that two brakes = safer stop. Both brakes working simultaneously allow all the mass centered on the bike to slow rather than cause some kind of awkwardly embarrassing situation with you moving over and beyond your bars. On a fixed gear your legs slow the rear wheel and you don't have that same uneven momentum problem with (or without) a front brake...but on a ss the freewheel prevents that all that fun stuff.
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but the only thing that worries me is fliping over the handle bars during an emergency brake...
Learn to brake properly and it won't be a problem. All you have to do is put your weight back.
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what about braking while cornering? braking when it's wet? there are tons of time's i'd much rather hit my rear brake than the front.

front brake only sounds pretty dumb to me...
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why do SS bikes need two brakes? why doesn't the front brake suffice?
So that you can brake properly and safely without the risk of losing your front teeth everytime you need to stop short; the only drawback I see is that your bike wouldn't look like a fixie from a cross the street.
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the only drawback I see is that your bike wouldn't look like a fixie from a cross the street.
zing! unless you were riding it, of course. then you look like the guy who wants to risk his grill to make his single speed look like a fixed gear.
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zing! unless you were riding it, of course. then you look like the guy who wants to risk his grill to make his single speed look like a fixed gear.
no teeth is the new black, so its all good.
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thanks for making fun of me guys
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Not everything is about you, okay? Jeez, kids today are so self-centered.
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what about braking while cornering? braking when it's wet? there are tons of time's i'd much rather hit my rear brake than the front.

front brake only sounds pretty dumb to me...
Front brake works fine when cornering (Sheldon has a page about it somewhere) - it's all about using a light touch so the wheel keeps turning. Braking when wet on the other hand is a real concern - it would be easy to lock up the front wheel on a wet patch, and then hit a dry patch and kiss the pavement.
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