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Old 08-28-06, 09:37 AM
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Alright guys, I've just gotta know.

I've recently acquired a Cannondale R400 with downtube shifters and a biopace crank. After watching all the conversions on this community, I've decided to make a conversion myself. I started wondering, though, what makes a fixie better than a single speed? I've been leaning toward single speed because I like the idea of hand brakes over no brakes (though I know some people do put a front brake on their fixie) and the ability to coast. What is it about a fixed gear that's so appealing?

I'm not trying to start a flame war, I honestly want to know.

Also, sorry if this has been posted before, btw.
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less to break.
improved pedal stroke.
more concious bike riding.
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Just get a flip flop hub, and try both. I'd be willing to bet the freewheel doesn't get much use.
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Actually, I think that's all it took to convince me... XD
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Wow. I've totally never heard of that. Where do you get one?
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Most manufacturers make them. Surly makes a good quality, and relatively inexpensive one. If I were you, I would go with a fixed/fixed. That way, you can do a cog/freewheel set up at first, but if you ever decide to take the freewheel off, you can have cog/cog for 2 different ratios.
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awesome! THanks!
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You got it! Make sure you follow up with pics, etc.
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This article (and its associated author) are what got many of us hooked. Also, be sure to read some of the testimonials.
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That frame has verticle dropouts, this will complicate your conversion process. There is a flip flop hub built for this by White Industries called the ENO hub. It is expensive but also very well built.
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you're going to want to ditch the biopace chainrings too. just get a regular (i imagine 130bcd) chainring from a bike shop. biopace isn't that great for a bike with gears. a no-no on a ss or fixed.

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Originally Posted by xthugmurderx
you're going to want to ditch the biopace chainrings too. just get a regular (i imagine 130bcd) chainring from a bike shop. biopace isn't that great for a bike with gears. a no-no on a ss or fixed.
I've ridden fixed on biopace no problem. I don't want to sound like Sheldon fanboy (this is my second post referring to him on this thread), but he supposedly rides fixed/biopace almost exclusively.
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keep in mind that when you choose fixed over single speed, you lose:

1: the experience of swiftly coasting down a long hill without having to spin your legs as fast as you can.
2: the ability to turn sharply without risking a pedal strike and subsequent wipeout.

just sayin'.
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I would imagine that SS improves your stroke more since your legs are responsible for the full revolution. I know when I hopped back on a road bike my legs kept getting stuck in the 6 o' clock position since I was used to having them dragged along.
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ss is just a cruiser road bike.
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Originally Posted by euphoria
I would imagine that SS improves your stroke more since your legs are responsible for the full revolution. I know when I hopped back on a road bike my legs kept getting stuck in the 6 o' clock position since I was used to having them dragged along.
I question whether or not this is true. I remember reading that pros use fixed gear bikes for training because it improves their stroke. Sure, it's akward to ride a geared bike after riding exclusively fixed for a while, but riding an SS over fixed doesn't necessarily mean that you're doing it right. A fixed gear bike forces your legs in to a smooth stroke, conditioning them for when you choose to ride a freewheel.
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Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
I question whether or not this is true. I remember reading that pros use fixed gear bikes for training because it improves their stroke. Sure, it's akward to ride a geared bike after riding exclusively fixed for a while, but riding an SS over fixed doesn't necessarily mean that you're doing it right. A fixed gear bike forces your legs in to a smooth stroke, conditioning them for when you choose to ride a freewheel.
After a few thousand miles of fixed-only riding, coming back to my coasting machines, I noticed that I wasn't pushing my feet through the top and bottom of the stroke. I was just letting the chain push my feet through the dead spot.

Pros ride both.
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then you weren't pedaling through the stroke on your fix. pedal one footed for a couple blocks. you'll see what i mean.
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Originally Posted by xthugmurderx
then you weren't pedaling through the stroke on your fix. pedal one footed for a couple blocks. you'll see what i mean.
I already know that I wasn't pedalling through my stroke. In fact, that was part of my point. The other part being that riding a fix doesn't naturally compel you to pedal properly.
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Originally Posted by aidasr
less to break.
Same amount of parts on a singlespeed as on a fixed gear, minus a freewheel, which is hard to break.


improved pedal stroke.
Good arguments presented that a fixed gear may make you lazy on the pedalstroke. I agree.


more concious bike riding.
Possibly. But perhaps you mean a better connection between bike and rider? Not neccesarily more conscious. Not having to shift makes you focused on the road more, a singlespeed provides that.

I've owned and ridden both. Both have their benefits/detriments. It all depends on personal preferance.

I choose to be a well rounded cyclist. I don't dismiss the value of any good bicycle used for it's intended application.

With that said, I recommend the flip-flop hub as well.
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A flipflop hub is a wonderful invention. I've got one, but usually go fixed. I have the same size cog on both sides. To really do something different, borrow one and go up and down a great hill...there's nothing like it.
Okay, why fixed? The answer is: plain and simple.
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