I know the seller was steep in price at 600$. I talked him down to 425$. I think he probably got a good deal since the bikes retailed for around 650$. This model has the Ararya wheels. I dont think they are half bad. They are heavy and seem solid. The hubset looks rather cheap with the basic Suze version. The bottom bracket is noisy. I will probably change that. I am debating on Sugino, or Phill Wood. The Dura Ace looks pretty good. I want to be able to overhaul the bottom bracket when I can.