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Old 08-31-06, 07:42 PM   #1
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red locktite+rotafix=??

Since the search function doesnt work for some odd reason, i hate to ask this again since it has been posted. But if i run red locttie on a suicide hub without a lock ring would it come loose if skid? BTW i do have a front brake so safety is still here.
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Why not run a lockring? , I wouldent trust it
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rotafix alone if done properly should be enough. I am not a lawyer, this is not advice, please don't sue me when you die. Red locktite rarely fails if you put the cog on real tight. Either or, but I would say both is overkill. A properly rotafixed cog can take two people with all their might to take off.

If you can run a lockring, do it if you value safety, simple as that. Some freewheel hubs take BB lockrings in case you didn't know that.
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So should i run a lock ring and rotafix and red locktite for safety?
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Massive overkill.
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Loctite and torquing the hell out of it should do. Just remember you'll need to take a torch to the cog to get it off.
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that's what im most likely going to do since i do have a brake on it. If it does come loose i'll just put a lockring on, thanks for all your input guys.
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overkill is WAY better than not enough. do everything in your power to make sure that thing never comes off.

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Since the search function doesnt work for some odd reason, i hate to ask this again since it has been posted. But if i run red locttie on a suicide hub without a lock ring would it come loose if skid? BTW i do have a front brake so safety is still here.
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So should i run a lock ring and rotafix and red locktite for safety?
What problem does Rotofix solve that a lockring doesn't?







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Is this guy stupid or a troll?

FFS... You have a brake can you just chill out? I'm riding on a hub that I received with no idea if it was rotafixed, locktited, or what, and it has no lockring, and I'm brakeless.

Here's your safety chart:

Lockring #1
Rotafix #2
Locktite #3
Torqueing real hard with a chain whip (only recommended on velodrome) #4

(that's just my estimation anyway)

combine them as you wish, the safety compounds, but so does the difficulty of removal. Locktite+rotafix=you may never get it off. I have no experience with this, but my brain tells me if a rotafix can take two big guys to wrench it off, imagine rotafix plus something that's already hard to undo.

Has anyone heard of a rotafix coming off? I haven't, but I have heard a number of cases of locktite coming off.

If your hub takes a lockring, just do it. Get it over with, you'll feel safer and they're less than $10.
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