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    Seattle folk - Helmet laws enforced? + help find LBS

    I just moved to Seattle yesterday and I've got a couple of questions -

    1. Are helmet laws enforced downtown? I know they're required by law, but do the cops harass bikers here?

    2. Any know of a good bike shop downtown? I live at 6th and Marion and would like to find something close.

    Thanks.

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    Helmet laws enforced? Not really. If they want to bust you for something else is where the usually pull it out. Be careful out there.

    Shop-wise you're closest to Elliott Bay. Counterbalance on Lower Queen Anne and Velo on Capitol Hill aren't far. Elliott Bay is really the only shop in downtown proper.

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    spend the effort and go up the hill to Counterbalance; they're better people, and a better shop for FG. the couple times i've been to Elliot Bay they've talked down to me and made me feel like they had something more important to do. granted when i went in there i didn't know a heck of a lot, but that's why you go to a shop and ask questions right? there's also Mobius; never been there but a couple people have reccomended it.
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    20/20 cycles at 2020 Union is good
    Mobius is good (downtown)
    Recycled cycles is meh meh (u district)
    Velo is ****ed, you'll see (capitol hill
    Counterbalance good from what I consistantly here but I have never been there.
    Aaron's in west seattle is good but thats kinda out of the way from where you are.

    I've flown by numerous cops helmetless and never been ****ed with. I kinda stick out so... I think they simply don't think it's worth their time. Just mind your own business and they will do the same.

    If youre looking for group rides the point83 ride is every thursday starting at Westlake mall/park downtown and is pretty fun.. I cannot always make it recently but it's usually a good time.
    www.point83.com

    There are dead baby rides every month too... this months just happened so it will be a sec before it comes around again.

    Lemme know if you wanna know anything else.
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    Recycled cycles is meh....not bad though if you just need to score random parts. I'd while I don't care what you do with your body....once its starts raining again I'd cover the brain matter. It gets really slick downtown and 2 mph cfalls happen all the time. I've never gotten hassled about a helmet though.
    I've been here since 2004? I've never felt this old before.

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    yeah, agreed. I'm too stubborn though.,.. I will bring one to races that seem like they may get rough but that's about it
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    Excellent. Thanks for the help. I'll check out Counterbalance.

    I should probably wear the helmet regardless, I ride brakeless and am going to die going down these damned hills.

    Once I get settled in here and actually land a job, I'll try and join some rides. I've had my eye out for other fixed gears, but haven't seen much yet. A nice Gitane and I saw someone on a bike I swear I've seen on here before - an older Celeste Pista w/ blue Deep V's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas
    20/20 cycles at 2020 Union is good
    Mobius is good (downtown)
    Recycled cycles is meh meh (u district)
    Velo is ****ed, you'll see (capitol hill
    Counterbalance good from what I consistantly here but I have never been there.
    Aaron's in west seattle is good but thats kinda out of the way from where you are.

    I've flown by numerous cops helmetless and never been ****ed with. I kinda stick out so... I think they simply don't think it's worth their time. Just mind your own business and they will do the same.

    If youre looking for group rides the point83 ride is every thursday starting at Westlake mall/park downtown and is pretty fun.. I cannot always make it recently but it's usually a good time.
    www.point83.com

    There are dead baby rides every month too... this months just happened so it will be a sec before it comes around again.

    Lemme know if you wanna know anything else.
    Aaron's is not that far really and they have pretty good directions on their web site.

    Velo is kinda ****ed but it's near my work. I like Recycled ok but then I almost never buy anything new. I get weird vibes from Counterbalance usually, like I'm not hip enough to be there. I'll have to check out 2020 and Mobius. Never been to either of those.

    Ok yeah - There's a co-op shop called Wright Brothers in Fremont. I think I paid something like $30 for a lifetime membership. That gets you access to the shop and all the tools, and they have wheelbuilding and repair classes periodically. The place is totally old school and kind of a pit, but awesome. It's the only shop I know of where the customers hang out and drink beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
    I should probably wear the helmet regardless, I ride brakeless and am going to die going down these damned hills.
    Ha. Nobody believes me when I tell them Seattle is hilly.

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    I saw a messenger get pulled over earlier this summer when I was standing on 1st for having no helmet (and allegedly running a red).

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    ive heard of people getting tickets for helmets and even breaking the 15mph speed limit on the burke-gilman. i was just downtown today paying 50bones for running a stop sign in fremont, and ive seen the fuzz in fremont several times in the last few weeks during peak commuter hours of the morning, just handing out tickets like candy.
    im lucky enough to have wright brothers as my closest LBS, and the place is the SNACKS. nothing against messers, but the elitist seattle attitude is a little thick for me at counterbalance ( although the goldsprints they hosted last month were cool ) i also check out recycled whenever im in the area, great place for picking up random parts for fiddling with funbikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billypilgrim
    ive heard of people getting tickets for helmets and even breaking the 15mph speed limit on the burke-gilman. i was just downtown today paying 50bones for running a stop sign in fremont, and ive seen the fuzz in fremont several times in the last few weeks during peak commuter hours of the morning, just handing out tickets like candy.
    im lucky enough to have wright brothers as my closest LBS, and the place is the SNACKS. nothing against messers, but the elitist seattle attitude is a little thick for me at counterbalance ( although the goldsprints they hosted last month were cool ) i also check out recycled whenever im in the area, great place for picking up random parts for fiddling with funbikes.
    Lame. That Fremont stakeout is bull****. I ride through there every morning.

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    Are there many messengers in the city? I haven't spent much time downtown during business hours, but all I really see are people putzing around on comfort bikes.

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    Whenever I saw them, there were usually a few sitting around having drinks after work down in pioneer square
    I've been here since 2004? I've never felt this old before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
    Are there many messengers in the city? I haven't spent much time downtown during business hours, but all I really see are people putzing around on comfort bikes.
    check 4th and Blanchard a little after 5pm. a bunch of the .83 kids hang around westlake in the evening too.
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    I work in the Pike Place Market now and I stopped by Elliott Bay the other day...

    Condescending would be a good word to describe the service. He warmed up after a few minutes, but made a couple snide remarks first.

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    i dont know why you guys dont like velo. theyre pretty nice, and yeah they dont have a lot of specialty stuff, but its a great place to get tubes and the like. plus, they are a little more fixie friendly than elliot bay, due probably to their proximity to all the capitol hill nonsense. and they usually have some track frames hanging from the ceiling, if youre ever looking for one. counterbalance is, of course, the place to go for messengerish stuff, but they can be a little awkward. if youre worried about people being mean to you, then performance is the place to go. everyone there is really nice. i dont think ive had better conversations about cycling than with the people there. and, yeah, its performance, but whatever. they have good deals sometimes.
    the guys at elliot bay have always been pretty nice to me. i go in there sometimes when im working to get my tires topped off, and they always seem willing to have a chat. maybe i was just lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin-A-Matic
    Are there many messengers in the city? I haven't spent much time downtown during business hours, but all I really see are people putzing around on comfort bikes.
    welcome to town. mobius would be your closest shop. i don't like elliott bay bikes much, but i like to go there just to see all the amazing vintage bikes (lots of track bikes) hanging from the ceiling -- it's like a museum. i'm a fan of counterbalance too, and 20/20 up in the cd is great.

    if you want to see messengers, stop by monorail espresso on pike st.

    oh, and by the way, i often don't wear a helmet in the summer and have never had a problem with cops.
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    I'm going to check out Mobius, they're only a few blocks from me. I stopped by Counterbalance today and was impressed with the service. Elliott Bay is much more fun to window shop at though.

    I've seen a lot of messengers around now. Or people who LOOK like messengers.

    I get the impression cops aren't too concerned with bikers. I've ridden by many without a helmet or brakes without any second looks. Regardless, I'm going to install a brake so I can make it down the hills in the rain and I should REALLY be wearing a helmet.

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    no mention of wright brothers in fremont? best store ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidnssbm
    no mention of wright brothers in fremont? best store ever
    I don't know about best store ever but use the coop shop there all the time.

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    Heh...I spent less than 24 hours in Seattle and my buddies and I got harassed by a cop for not wearing a helmet. He wasn't too stoked on us.

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    little known fact: the seattle helmet law is in the public health code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbikerbrian
    little known fact: the seattle helmet law is in the public health code.
    Helmets keep the lice contained.

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