"soma Fabrkations"?
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"soma Fabrkations"?
While changing cogs tonight, I took a good look at the cog I was taking off, and I noticed that it says "SOMA FABRKATIONS 18T X 1/8" CNC'D CRO-MO"
"FABRKATIONS"?
I never had any real trouble with it while it was on. The cog I put on today had it spelled right--"SOMA FABRICATIONS 17T X 1/8" (etc.)...and interestingly, I bought it from the same local shop where I had gotten the weird one.
Are there counterfeit Soma cogs going around, and did I get one? Or did Soma's provider make a boo-boo on a recent batch, or something?
(Yes, I know I could email Soma or call the shop. But it's ten o'clock at night, and you people know everything.)
"FABRKATIONS"?
I never had any real trouble with it while it was on. The cog I put on today had it spelled right--"SOMA FABRICATIONS 17T X 1/8" (etc.)...and interestingly, I bought it from the same local shop where I had gotten the weird one.
Are there counterfeit Soma cogs going around, and did I get one? Or did Soma's provider make a boo-boo on a recent batch, or something?
(Yes, I know I could email Soma or call the shop. But it's ten o'clock at night, and you people know everything.)
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i dunno, we're all drunk already. you should call the shop in the mornin'.
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i have a 16Tx3/32 on my conversion and it's spelled with a "c"
same here
and on this pic from soma's website
Then again, they do call them Track Kogs...
same here
and on this pic from soma's website
Then again, they do call them Track Kogs...
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Originally Posted by sers
i have a 16Tx3/32 on my conversion and it's spelled with a "c"
same here
same here
Originally Posted by deathhare
Yeah, theres a huge N.Korean counterfiet cog problem...theyre pumping this stuff into the west coast. Bastards.
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lol that reminds me. There were these fake Timex watches i saw in Vietnam. I forget how they were spelled. It was funny though. Something like Timeks or Timetz or something. I think it was different and more funny. Continue.
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Wow, the cog proudly says "CNC'D". Do they think that riders don't know that forging would result in a stronger cog, but it would be a bit more complicated to do? It's not such a complex shape as to require CNC, is it???
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Well, yes... That's why Soma have them CNC'd. But it's not something I would shout out to the world: "Listen, everyone, we cut corners and had this cog made by a slightly inferior, but cheaper fabrkation method!!! Isn't that amazing!"
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You can achieve tighter tolerances with a cnc machine than just forging. It could be cnc machined from a forged blank the way high end pistons are. Then you get the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by sivat
You can achieve tighter tolerances with a cnc machine than just forging..
which isnt really needed here. A cog doesnt need to be done to .00000001th of an inch to work well.
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I am abandoning the word fabrication, and replacing it from now on in my interweb based writing with fabrkation. I expect all of you to do the same. Thankyou.
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
Well, yes... That's why Soma have them CNC'd. But it's not something I would shout out to the world: "Listen, everyone, we cut corners and had this cog made by a slightly inferior, but cheaper fabrkation method!!! Isn't that amazing!"
Long live the CNC machine!
And cogs aren't cut to specific tolerances the way a custom piston would be. CNC and mass consumption have killed cold forging.
Why would anybody go to the trouble of counterfeiting a bike cog, that's a bit like counterfeiting a nickle...
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Well, you can get a little bit more for a track cog than you can for a nickel. I dunno. I'm just saying it's weird, is all.
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Well, Sma was in sme hard tymes bak when lazer-etchng kost mre than CNC'n. And it ws cheapr to etch a "k" than a "c" bkauz of the spline curv. And frg3t about "i's.
Seriously, though, do you have a photo? That's really kind of funny.
Oh also, those 'i's and 'c's weigh a ton. I took them all off my roadie a while ago and it weighed like four pounds less.
Seriously, though, do you have a photo? That's really kind of funny.
Oh also, those 'i's and 'c's weigh a ton. I took them all off my roadie a while ago and it weighed like four pounds less.
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Originally Posted by LóFarkas
Wow, the cog proudly says "CNC'D". Do they think that riders don't know that forging would result in a stronger cog, but it would be a bit more complicated to do? It's not such a complex shape as to require CNC, is it???
i would also assume that 13T-17T cogs are machined from one size blank, and 18T-22T are made from another. cold forging is really efficient when you're making a lot of the same thing, however it would require a ton of machinery to make 10 different sizes of cogs in 2 different pitches.
stainless steel is arguably a better material than cromoly for cogs because it is more resistant to corrosion,. However it is brittle and normalizing it with heat acts to prevent the cog from cracking under stress.
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Originally Posted by sers
however it would require a ton of machinery to make 10 different sizes of cogs in 2 different pitches.
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Originally Posted by Boss Moniker
Well, Sma was in sme hard tymes bak when lazer-etchng kost mre than CNC'n. And it ws cheapr to etch a "k" than a "c" bkauz of the spline curv. And frg3t about "i's.
Seriously, though, do you have a photo? That's really kind of funny.
Seriously, though, do you have a photo? That's really kind of funny.
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The print on that cog ^ is way bigger than from the reference image - if indeed the reference image is suitable as reference.
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Somebody else got one. Unfortunately the picture is now gone, but check the text in the ad. He's in LA, too. Hmmmm...
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