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    lower back pain after 20mi

    I come to you with a problem. after about 15-20 mi I start to get a pain in my lower back and it doesn't go away until I get off the bike. I have made sure my seat was level and it seems to be positioned right, seat hight seems right. Would it help to flip the stem?

    I already posted in the LD forum but I figured you guys might know a thing or two
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    raise the stem. make your bars higher. what is the drop from you saddle level to the bars right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeskihp
    I come to you with a problem. after about 15-20 mi I start to get a pain in my lower back and it doesn't go away until I get off the bike. I have made sure my seat was level and it seems to be positioned right, seat hight seems right. Would it help to flip the stem?

    I already posted in the LD forum but I figured you guys might know a thing or two
    Could be a whole lot of different things. I'm no big fan of doctors but don't mess around with lower back pain it rarely gets better, go to a good doctor(get a recomendation or something) and get it checked out. Bike postition is very important go to www.sheldonbrown.com and check bike position, flipping a stem won't fix it.
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    I flipped the stem and it seems much more comfy(besides being really ugly) but I haven't taken it for a long ride yet

    edit: just read the sheldon page and there doesn't seem to be a quick fix, next problem I have a century on the 7th
    Last edited by freeskihp; 09-23-06 at 08:33 PM.
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    What was the angle of your stem?

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    whatever the stock bianchi pista stem is, i looked for the exact measurement but I couldn't find it. there is a pic where it is unflipped in my sig.
    "The only reasons anyone should ever ride in the rain is because a) youíve had your license to operate a motor vehicle suspended by the state. b) youíre in a bike race in which case youíre not allowed to use fenders anyway. c) youíre from Portland- in which case my main problem is with your neck beard- not your bicycle...If you need to train when itís pissing rain- buy a trainer or one of those cheap charter flights to Mallorca."

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    Are you doing some climbing?

    Are you climbing on days when this happens? I've overcooked my lower back when I hit one hill too many. If you're mashing a big gear up those hills seated and begin using your upper body (I'll start swaying for and aft) it can sneak up on your back - especially if you haven't been riding hills lately.

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    next problem I have a century on the 7th
    better fix that and log som serious miles before the seagull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bottomfeeder
    Are you climbing on days when this happens? I've overcooked my lower back when I hit one hill too many. If you're mashing a big gear up those hills seated and begin using your upper body (I'll start swaying for and aft) it can sneak up on your back - especially if you haven't been riding hills lately.

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    its not so much climbing but just in general, so flipping the stem, bad or good idea?
    "The only reasons anyone should ever ride in the rain is because a) youíve had your license to operate a motor vehicle suspended by the state. b) youíre in a bike race in which case youíre not allowed to use fenders anyway. c) youíre from Portland- in which case my main problem is with your neck beard- not your bicycle...If you need to train when itís pissing rain- buy a trainer or one of those cheap charter flights to Mallorca."

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    Getting the handlebars higher than level to your seat is likely to make your back feel better and if you can keep ego out of the way, you are likely to be happier with your ride. There is a reason why a lot of people on here sport risers or bullhorns, but not drops on their commuter bikes. Everyone is different though, so what might work for me, won't necessarily work for you.
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    lower back pain after that many miles makes me think the muscles in that area are making up for weaker abdominals.

    i would try crunches and other abdominal muscle exercises - 1 set ea of about 12-15 reps - for ea area of the abdomen and one for the lower back. no breaks between sets. this can be done in about 8-10 minutes, say, 3 X per week. well worth it.

    contrary to popular belief, you don't have to do 1000 crunches every day to see results. 10 minutes, 3 days per week. build the core, man. like drinking water, it helps in more ways than you thought possible...

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    Your lucky it goes away when you get off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeskihp
    so flipping the stem, bad or good idea?
    Flipping the bars is a good idea for pretty much any pain. It looks like you saddle is all the way back and those bars don't allow many good hand positions except far forward. If the pain continues you may want to get a shorter stem or some road drops. If the saddle is not intentionally set that far back you could move it up too BUT adjusting the saddle is the wrong way to fix reach issues if it's corectly adjusted now. Also aero bars with risers are very comfy especially if you are going to be doing the century brakeless and therefore not drafting.

    While it will suck, if you cannot ride 40+ miles without pain DO NOT attempt a century. You may finish it but you will likely end up injuring yourself and being out of commission for a while. There will be more centuries to do next year unless you have a large bet on this one or don't ride during the winter it's not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutret
    Flipping the bars is a good idea for pretty much any pain. It looks like you saddle is all the way back and those bars don't allow many good hand positions except far forward. If the pain continues you may want to get a shorter stem or some road drops. If the saddle is not intentionally set that far back you could move it up too BUT adjusting the saddle is the wrong way to fix reach issues if it's corectly adjusted now. Also aero bars with risers are very comfy especially if you are going to be doing the century brakeless and therefore not drafting.
    I adjusted the seat after that picture was taken, it is now a little bit farther forward and level instead of tilted back. I will take a long-ish ride with the flipped stem and adjusted seat somtime soon, and the common consensus is that I need to strengthen up my abs which I don't know how much it can be changed in 2 weeks but I'll give it a shot, thanks for the replies
    "The only reasons anyone should ever ride in the rain is because a) youíve had your license to operate a motor vehicle suspended by the state. b) youíre in a bike race in which case youíre not allowed to use fenders anyway. c) youíre from Portland- in which case my main problem is with your neck beard- not your bicycle...If you need to train when itís pissing rain- buy a trainer or one of those cheap charter flights to Mallorca."

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