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Old 09-24-06, 05:26 PM   #1
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Pogliaghi (well, sort of)

Well, at least itís branded as oneÖ

Posted in SS/FG because I know that many track bike aficionados own Pogs, and hope that they can point me in the right direction. Capitalization and punctuation included for the benefit of those who might be kind enough to help. Cross posted in Classic & Vintage.

















What I know:

Rear dropout spacing: ~126mm
Front derailleur braze-on
Columbus SL sticker
ďPĒ headbadge decal

Serial #9142 stamped on BB shell, not seat tube lug like the few other Pogs Iíve seen.

56 CF stamped on the other side of the BB shell, the significance of CF is something Iíd like to find out.

If this were one of the original, sequentially numbered Pogliaghis (and Iím pretty sure that itís not), it would have to have been produced in the late sixties or early seventies. This bike looks nothing like the other Pogs from that era, the decals alone say 80s. The stamps on the seatstays at the seatlug are different from all the other Pogs Iíve seen as well.

Anyhoo, a quick internet search tells me that the brand was sold to Rossin, and later to Basso. My guess is that this frame is one of these, but unfortunately I canít find anything about frames of this vintage on the web.

If anybody has any info on the post-Pog Pogs, itíd be much appreciated!
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The fork crown SP says that bike is from the 80's like mine but your seatstay cap engraving is different leading me to believe your's is late late 80s. My guess is that it was built by basso who was the last owner. Dunno about serial number though. If you find out tell me?
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The fork crown SP says that bike is from the 80's like mine but your seatstay cap engraving is different leading me to believe your's is late late 80s. My guess is that it was built by basso who was the last owner. Dunno about serial number though. If you find out tell me?
will do. yeah, late 80s sounds about right. what's your headbadge look like?
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I think it's probably a basso(or rossin). Is there a "PSM" stamped on the headtube lug?
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My Pog has a 9725 #.
If it was built by Sante, it would have PSM stamped somewhere on the BB or seatlug.

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Thanks Don. Got any pics of yours?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Sante didn't build this one, but I'd not be disappointed with a rebranded Rossin or Basso in the least.
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Don beat me to it. I guess the PSM signature can be anywhere. Mine is stamped PSM on the upper headtube lug and 12254 on the lower. I have the same SP pantograph on the forks, but the rest of the logos are the older style.
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And by the way, that's still a very nice looking frame. Build it up nice and ride the ***** out of it.
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that bike is HOT! love the tiny pog logos
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thanks guys. no psm but it is still a very nice frame. the plan is to build up with modern(ish) campy parts. in a way it's a bit relieving that it's not a rare collectors item, i'd be afraid to ride a sante built pogliaghi.

edit: aw **** that. course i wish it was an original...

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My Pog has a 9725 #.
If it was built by Sante, it would have PSM stamped somewhere on the BB or seatlug.

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mine.

Does anyone know which Pog's were made by Sante and which weren't. Ie last serial number he made?
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this may or may not help http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...al_numbers.htm
mine is thhe track version of this http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Ita...ch_348010.html which is basso.
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mine.

Does anyone know which Pog's were made by Sante and which weren't. Ie last serial number he made?
ah yes, i've ogled that one more than once. lovely bike.

the classic rendezvous site has been the most useful that i've found based on limited internet research.

i've sent emails to both basso and to the company that eventually acquired rossin (www.gruppobici.it). i'll post any responses i get.

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