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    Me talk pretty one day. eyefloater's Avatar
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    Contest: Which frame has been sold under the most brands?

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    different TT and dropouts.

    not to mention the lack of those NASTY welds.
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    Good call on the tt. Welds are just a matter of quality control requirements. It's total conspiracy theory, but I'm guessing it's the same frame w/ just a different tt spec'd.

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    Windsor/Motobecane/Fuji?
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    I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
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    the leader and the fetish are built in the same place, but the opus is actually decently nice.

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    Alright, that's two. I'll ditch the Opus on the off chance that it's not one and the same.

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    The seat stay on the leader is crimped too.
    The DT is larger(look by the bb shell cause the HT is confusing)
    The track ends are completely different.
    The welds aren't even close in style if that is a quality control issue it's a huge one.

    How do we even know these are made in the same factory? Is there anything other then internet rumor?

    I think some poeple should spend some timehere

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    /\ hahahah nice one

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    Oooh, interweb burn.

    You're totally right, there's no way that frame could use any of the same tubes. Especially not something knocked out by some generic factory and certainly not when Opus is owned by OGC (Outdoor Gear Canada - Canadian parts supplier). They'd have no reason to ever talk to any major production factories in Taipei, etc. and get their "own" design spit out. It'd certainly be impossible to just place, say a minimum order of $5000 and get whatever product you wanted w/ your logo on it even when other companies are selling the exact same thing or minor variations of it.
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    those welds are absolutely inexcusable.
    that's all i have to say about this entire topic.

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    who gives a sht about welds?

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    The Opus ****ing rocks.
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    Isn't that refered to as pilot welding? Pil' ot on and hope it holds?

    Quote Originally Posted by rustang
    those welds are absolutely inexcusable.
    that's all i have to say about this entire topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vomitron
    who gives a sht about welds?
    Welders

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattface
    Welders
    quality control personel

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlefoot
    quality control personel
    But apparently NOT people who've survived having the top of their seat tube separate from their frame while riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon
    The Opus ****ing rocks.
    Yeah, that's a sharp bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Who
    Yeah, that's a sharp bike.
    Hey...OT, but nice game. Your man Palmer got his sh*t together and was playing like he knows how. (For the record, Big Ben was on the Bengals payroll yesterday. )
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    how about the KHS/ Mercier/ Spicer

    or for hubs... the Formula/ Velocity/ IRO/ NYCBikes/ Felt/ Ambrosia puppies you see everywhere.

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    Ya, all jackassing and conspiracy theorizing aside, this thread actually does serve a purpose. If a decent list can come together of the same products under different names/prices, it can go in the "budget" thread and give people some more options than they might be aware of.

    Edit: Oh, and here's a link to the 2007 Libretto for those who liked the 2006 model: http://www.opusbike.com/pdf/OpusCatal2007.pdf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattface
    But apparently NOT people who've survived having the top of their seat tube separate from their frame while riding.
    If you're referring to my GT exploding while I was riding, that wasn't a matter of welds.

    A lot of weld material seems like not a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vomitron
    If you're referring to my GT exploding while I was riding, that wasn't a matter of welds.

    A lot of weld material seems like not a bad thing.

    it is a bad thing. it points to poor penetration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vomitron
    If you're referring to my GT exploding while I was riding, that wasn't a matter of welds.

    A lot of weld material seems like not a bad thing.
    Yeah I know that wasn't actually a matter of bad welds in that case, but you have to admit exploding frames are no fun.

    A crummy looking weld MAY be plenty strong, but as others have mentioned poor penetration means the weld will likely fail prematurely. Good looking welds are one hallmark of a quality product. One that will hold up even under abuse.

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    Listen guys, if I was in the business of thinking reasonably when it comes to bikes, I wouldn't ride a pursuit bike that's 5cm too small for me.

    So what I'm saying here is, you're only allowed to tell me things that enable my stupid decisions. Dig it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattface
    poor penetration
    ...is never a good thing.

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