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    Phil's BB/Hub worth cost?

    Let's say I've got a Campy hookup: 10% over wholesale. Which means <$400 on a Campy Pista BB and both hubs.
    I could however go nuts, and go Phil, for about a 60% cost increase (I can't say no to the SLR option on the High Flange hubs).

    What would you do?

    Given Phil's reputation for reliability until forever, should I be looking for used?

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    well, look at it this way. i have phils on 2 of my bikes. one side of one of my rears had a weird issue with the lockring threads. they're replacing that hub the next time they anodize that color. that's pretty awesome service and it's great to know that a company stands behind their product and wants their customers happy.

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    if you can swing the cost on phil wood parts, you shouldn't hesitate... but the campy stuff is not shabby either.
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    Phil Wood is meant for abuse, Campagnolo is meant for competition. Do you race track or just ride hard in all weather?

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    Campy all the way. Phil schmil.

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    Campy is prettier. And lighter, I'm sure.

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    I like my Campy, but it never sees the rain!
    You're not punk, and I'm telling everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12XU
    Phil Wood is meant for abuse, Campagnolo is meant for competition. Do you race track or just ride hard in all weather?
    I guess there you have it. Certainly they're alot heavier, but durability and weatherproofing is significantly more my concern. If I was concerned with shaving grams I could take off my belt buckle. And with a life-time garuntee and great customer service, how can I say no? I think you guys just made my decision really easy.

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    lifetime guarentee is totally worth it.
    putting the pi back in pirate!
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    If you have a hookup at campy, it's possible you work at a shop or race or something that qualifies you for a pro deal?

    In that case, Phil's got a sweet pro deal.

    Either way, my commuter has phil hubs and BB on it, and it's awesome, especially in crappy weather when I don't have to worry about anything.

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    Not worth it for me.
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    PHIL WOOD

    * Large flange "SLR" (relieved flanges for lighter weight) pairs:
    o 32&#176;&#215;32&#176; pair with standard single-sided rear hub - $319.50/pair
    o 32&#176;&#215;32&#176; pair with dual-sided (fixed/fixed) rear hub - $339.50/pair

    never worrying about your hubs...ever. - priceless.

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    "campy" sounds stupid, buy phils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    "campy" sounds stupid, buy phils.
    +aliens
    putting the pi back in pirate!
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    Of Proposition 187

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    there you go again adding theories as though they're have some numeric value....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    "campy" sounds stupid, buy phils.
    This is kind of embarassing to admit, but for the longest time I thought "campy" was referring the word campy, as in something that's kind of silly, like B horror films or whatever.

    I remember talking about Ann Radcliffe's "The Mysteries of Udulpho" with someone and hearing them refer to it as a "campy" book, then reading something about "campy" bike parts online, and making some sort of weird connection between the two words. I know better now, I swear.
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    I swear too, want to go on a date some time and curse at old people?

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    track racing=unsealed.
    street riding=sealed.

    phil schmil.

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    Campy BB's wear out quicker than Phils. My friend had a Record BB on his road bike and he said it wore out rather quickly. He got a Phil and its working a lot longer than his Record.

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    I once disliked a guy named Phil.

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    Istrip cheap hubs faster than the streaks in my underwear I got a set of phils man oh man do I love em and since they are in san jose support is a three day turn around
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    Quote Originally Posted by isotopesope
    track racing=unsealed.
    street riding=sealed.

    phil schmil.
    I don't ride track. I'm interested in it, but it is not something I've ever done. The closest I've got to sprint laps at a velodrome are doing sprint laps around City Hall (which I wouldn't reccomend to everyone, but is extremely fun). So yeah, sealed bearings are more or a consideration than the nigh-imperceptible difference in smoothness between the hubs NIB.

    Thank you all for your help. I think I've got to go Schmil, I mean Phil.

    [edit: proofreading]

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