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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 10-15-06, 11:20 PM   #1
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Brakes Or No Brakes? Toe Clips, Flats Or Clipless??

this thread will start an almost innumerable amount of arguments.but its fun. and they are constructive. and obviously, you cant say, "brakes or no brakes mate?" on a roadie or mtb thread. i mean, you could, but they would stare. hard.

for me-
brakes: nothing
pedals: clips with double straps


and would you guys ever RACE fixie cross? ive seen people do it, and theyre insanely fast. people have blown by me like im an old guy with white hair.
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Old 10-15-06, 11:28 PM   #2
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I really hope I'm the first and last person that posts on this thread.
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Old 10-15-06, 11:33 PM   #3
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and would you guys ever RACE fixie cross? ive seen people do it, and theyre insanely fast. people have blown by me like im an old guy with white hair.
I haven't raced, but I've ridden courses fixed and it seems totally disadvantageous compared to SS. Cooler perhaps, in the same way that you'd be cooler if you were owning people from a schwinn varsity. But no performance advantage.
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Old 10-15-06, 11:35 PM   #4
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no brakes
clips with laminated rubber straps
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Old 10-15-06, 11:41 PM   #5
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Front brake cos o my knees and my wife and kid (okay, and my nerves...you got me, hardcore). Cheap pedals with nylon straps cos I hate sounding like a tap dancer in SPD shoes. No racing anywhere a license is required.

Oh, and I love reading arguments on this board. So thanks.
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Old 10-16-06, 12:03 AM   #6
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Allow me to summarize the usual conversations in these areas and just get it over with:

brakes:
bro 1: brakes are for *******!
bro 2: ever kicked a chain on a gnarley hill? that'll change your mind
bro 1: there are no brakes in the velodrome!
bro 3: I got kids man, a brake is the responsible thing to do
bro 4: oh my god, i so feel the brakeless zen!
bro 2: I can ride faster with a brake than I can without
bro 1: i don't need to brake, i avoid!
bro 3: its easy to avoid stuff when you're walking your new pista through the hip part of town, poser!
bro 1: i've been riding fixed for ten years, punk. brakes add weight, cloud the simplicity of my ride, and I don't need them to stop my bike.
roadie: my bike has two brakes, three chainrings, two derailleurs, and a whole cassette out back and it still weighs less than your pos conversion!

clips/clipless:

bro 1: if you were a serious cyclist you'd ride clipless. clips are inefficient.
bro 2: and by serious you mean i only ride when i slap my $3000 bike on the old station wagon and drive it to the park on sunday to do a couple hot laps? I ride everywhere man, I can't always be wearing cycling shoes. you think i want to show up to the bar in my sidis?
bro 1: there are plenty of cycling shoes out there that look like street shoes.
bro 3: click clack, click clack!!!!
bro 1: you're wasting so much effort and efficiency, you can barely even pull the pedal through the back of your stroke!
bro 4: blah blah blah unclip at inopportune time blah blah
bro 3: yeah! blah blah blah fell over at stoplight blah blah
bro 5: GR9's work great with my chucks!!!!
bro 6: sylvans put holes in my vans!!!!
bro 7: I'll use whatever those keirin guys are usin'!!!

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Old 10-16-06, 12:14 AM   #7
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Wait, I forgot:

bro 5: As Bacon goes, so shall I...Brakeless!!!
bro 6: If I run a brake I'll have to get that ugly silver ring machined on my pink deep v's!
bro 7: I USED to ride brakeless, until my knees EXPLODED!!!!
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Old 10-16-06, 12:36 AM   #8
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i thought this thread was worthless. then i laughed.
now it can be closed.
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Old 10-16-06, 12:38 AM   #9
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Back to the fixed cross thing. Yeah, I also have never raced cross. I ride fixed on the road, ride SS mountain. I have toyed with the idea of fixed off road, but it does actually seem like overkill (stated otherwise, I am afraid). Those riders were blowin by you though, huh? I am about to build up an SS cross bike, and folks I work with race. I am not sure I see the advantage of fixed gear for cross...anyone?
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Old 10-16-06, 07:06 AM   #11
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i think that any cycling discipline where gravity is a significant factor is probably unsuited for fixed gear
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Old 10-16-06, 07:33 AM   #12
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Train on fixed gear to be as strong as those guys. Race on a real cross bike to beat them.

An organized cross race would allow no brakes and fixed gear in the race? Not likely.
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Old 10-16-06, 07:48 AM   #13
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An organized cross race would allow no brakes and fixed gear in the race? Not likely.

Thats why someone needs to hold their own with lots of video cameras. I would watch a brakeless cross race. It would be hilarious.


Be prepared to get a few pedals to the shins as your work on you fg remounts too.
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Old 10-16-06, 07:57 AM   #14
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Front brake, clipless for me.

Don't think either will change, ever.
(You should have made this a poll. Sorta interesting, but this thread was sure to get too silly to be informative.)
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Old 10-16-06, 09:40 AM   #16
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nothing says "I'm a bike dork" like the road shoe tap dance.

You think carrying a u-lock in your rear pocket gets you street cred? Pfff, stupid newbies, the bike ladies line up everywhere when I walk in sounding like a cowboy at the 7-11 in my Shimanos.
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front brake
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You think carrying a u-lock in your rear pocket gets you street cred? Pfff, stupid newbies, the bike ladies line up everywhere when I walk in sounding like a cowboy at the 7-11 in my Shimanos.
Are those NJS spurs?
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Mavfac Racer front brake...MKS pedals with no clips or straps..yet!

I'm shopping around and I only ride to class and around town a little bit so I don't miss being clipped in/tied down.
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**** all yall, no brakes, i ride on the spindles, ****s
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Are those NJS spurs?
It's funny, Japanese car guys are all into being "JDM", meaning having all Japanese manufactured car parts, eg: Greddy/HKS/Apexi/Mugen/Spoon/Jun/RS Kakimoto/Espilir/anything out of Option 2/etc etc etc.... The smaller the manufacturer (IE Some japanese guy with a welder and some tube making an exhaust system under the name of BRIGHT LIGHTS YOSHIMOTO GARAGE = MUCH MORE JDM than a Greddy (a much bigger company's) setup), and I always thought that I could escape that scene with bikes, but keirin proved me 100% wrong.
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Haha, right on. I saw some article about the current Japanese fixed scene recently. It looked remarkably like the Sport Compact and Super Street articles that were coming out in 01' about this "new" thing called drifting.
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You think carrying a u-lock in your rear pocket gets you street cred? Pfff, stupid newbies, the bike ladies line up everywhere when I walk in sounding like a cowboy at the 7-11 in my Shimanos.

hahahahha
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I don't care what other people ride or don't ride and I'm sure they feel the same about me. Just don't ride like an ***hole or get yourself killed because you can't control your bike.
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nothing says "I'm a bike dork" like the road shoe tap dance.

You think carrying a u-lock in your rear pocket gets you street cred? Pfff, stupid newbies...
I have to admit, I have the lock holder that came with that my U-lock on my bike.. sure it looks kinda ****ty but I find that **** useful sometime! and it's not like I have an $800 bike that I'm making look bad or scratching...
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