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Old 10-16-06, 10:20 PM   #1
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Saddles, saddles, saddles....

I have been having a hell of a time finding one that doesn't f**ckin' hurt!
Swapped out four so far, in order of ascending quality:
An old Avocet Touring II
A low-end Selle Italia
A high-end Velo Forte
A Vetta Tri-Shock
They've all kind of sucked, despite that I've dialed in fit and angle, and I wear bikeshorts.
Keep in mind that I've acquired these all for free or cheap, but I'm now willing to spend some $$ (two dollar signs, not three) on something that is rad.
I ride a lot.
Please offer suggestions or personal experiences and, on behalf of my special stuff, thanks.
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Old 10-16-06, 10:32 PM   #2
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Brooks B17 was a real improvement for me. I'm currently rocking a Selle Italia Turbo...only one ride so far, but no pain.

(also...no more San Diego? Moved to Portland in time for the rainy season? How's the BK?)
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Old 10-16-06, 10:36 PM   #3
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Fizik Arione is a wonderful thing. I know it's a bit over the $$ range, but not by much.
There is so much room to move around, and it has so much back-forth adjustibility.
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Old 10-16-06, 10:37 PM   #4
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on behalf of my special stuff they really like selle smp eveloution a little pricey ....performance has it if you dont like it return it no numb butt & everyones happy
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I like my Flites. Firm shell (this is the main difference between Flites and their many knockoff as far as I can tell), long rails, just wide enough, and just the right amount of padding. They're also not butt ugly, grossly overpriced or heavy like some "vintage" saddles.

Over long distances I like a Brooks better.
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Brooks B17 was a real improvement for me. I'm currently rocking a Selle Italia Turbo...only one ride so far, but no pain.

(also...no more San Diego? Moved to Portland in time for the rainy season? How's the BK?)
ok so i have found that the turbo is the only saddle i've had worth owning... only problem i got into a scuffle that left my saddle destroyed, as in one of the rails came out of its socket.

I haven't thrown it away but can someone please tell me how i can reset it, i refuse to give up on the most comfortable piece of equipment mounted on my bike.

thanks

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Old 10-16-06, 11:03 PM   #7
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I've had good luck (daily 30 minute commutes up to centuries) on Bontrager Race Lites. This is the standard saddle on mid-level Treks, Lemonds, etc, and can be had pretty cheap ($30 to $40) on Ebay. For instance: http://cgi.ebay.com/TREK-SADDLE-BONT...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 10-16-06, 11:11 PM   #8
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concor! i've got 6.
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ok so i have found that the turbo is the only saddle i've had worth owning... only problem i got into a scuffle that left my saddle destroyed, as in one of the rails came out of its socket.

I haven't thrown it away but can someone please tell me how i can reset it, i refuse to give up on the most comfortable piece of equipment mounted on my bike.

thanks

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This is often repairable if nothing is actually broken, pretty tough to describe how. Basically you want something that you can flex the rail with & maybe something else to pry on the part of the saddle where the rail plugs in. A second set of hands can really help.
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With bike shorts, something like the one I have should work. It's roughly the same as this Velo:


Basically it's an SLR clone with more padding and less price. I'm sure I'd love the lovely new SLR XC (SLR with extra padding and extra beefiness made for MTBing), but it's too expensive 4 me.

Velo make the rail + nylon/CF base, Acor and BBB make or spec their own padding and cover... so there's a dozen different saddles with the same base body from three different brands to choose from

Mine is a Ti rail Acor w/ cutout, and it's reasonably comfy even withot bike shorts. For a saddle that cost $30 and weighs 195g, that's rather nice I really like the looks, I have to say. Both the acor and the bbb looktons better than the velo above.




(BTW, the CroMo rail BBB version is rather spartan in terms of padding. I used to have one... well, still have it in a drawer, actually.)



Oh, one more edit. With modern racey saddles, there isn't much padding. That's not a problem, if 1)the shape is right for yous ass and riding position 2) there is enough flex in the body. This is crucial for comfort on bumps. If you buy one of these SLR-ish saddles, make sure it's easy to flex down the centre section. The SLR XC I looked at bends down half an inch easily in my hands, an inch if I really squeeze it, and the Acor is nice and flexy, too. These saddles sometimes bottom out on the saddle clamp, actually. You may even have to cut/file stuff there to protect the saddle, esp if you're fat

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This is often repairable if nothing is actually broken, pretty tough to describe how. Basically you want something that you can flex the rail with & maybe something else to pry on the part of the saddle where the rail plugs in. A second set of hands can really help.
what would you suggest as far as the item for flexing the rail in concerned?
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The last time I did this I used two adjustable wrenches. One on the rail out sideways the other on the first providing leverage. I think a small pipe wrench would work well because the jaw is 90 deg. to the handle. Getting leverage in the right direction is the hardest part.

Tape jaws of tool to minimize marking.
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Old 10-17-06, 01:04 AM   #16
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i think my fizik dolomiti or whatever is amazing, its falling apart though from lots of falling over a few years and i'm scared that i wont be able to find/afford a replacement
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The last time I did this I used two adjustable wrenches. One on the rail out sideways the other on the first providing leverage. I think a small pipe wrench would work well because the jaw is 90 deg. to the handle. Getting leverage in the right direction is the hardest part.

Tape jaws of tool to minimize marking.
excellent i am going to try that once i finish this week...
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Old 10-17-06, 07:50 AM   #18
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I don't have 6 but the concor is my favorite too.
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Old 10-17-06, 08:02 AM   #19
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I've got tons of saddles... Most of them have been uncomfortable. My pretty looking rolls is especially bad for killing my groin area (and tearing apart my pants since its perforated).

I also have some selle italia xo genuine gel saddle that really sucks (I have seen it mounted on road and mountain bikes before). Its good to bash around but really uncomfortable!!


I have an ugly looking (in yellow) selle italia flite oktavia genuine gel (what the heck is 'genuine' gel anyways?) saddle that is my comfiest at the moment.


I also have a plastic sparkly blue with flakes and racing stripes schwinn saddle that I keep on my commuter that I love. Just the right amount of padding, good shape, 100% water proof, cheap etc. Can't find any pictures of it, but its basically a flite clone with thick blue sparkly vinyl covering and a couple of black patches on the corners in case of scuffing. Its got a great big S in the middle and racing stripes.

and I'm about to pick up a british racing green brooks b17 for my touring/cx bike.
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Ha! Different asses... I find the same XO gen. gel really comfortable. No complaints even after a (metric) double century. Well, other than the fact that now I find it rather ugly and heavy. One of those is my other bike (MTB).
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I must have an agreeable ass, because I don't have a saddle that is UNcomfortable.

Methinks enough miles will do that. Everything becomes comfy.
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I had a brooks b17 that developed a ridge where other saddles have a cutout. **** that noise. I got a Terry fly -- its comfy, relatively light, good for bike shorts or no bike shorts, and I am just secure enough in my heterosexuality not to mind the fact that it looks ****ing gay.
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Selle San Marco Era has been a comfy saddle for me... I won't yet say it's the best though
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The SLR clone Velo saddle that comes on the Concept is the worst thing ever in my eyes. I swear to god it will be the end of me, and my childern producing dance I do in ze bed.

I want a Turbo .

Are they really comfy? Worth it to shell out the cash? I'm just worried that i'll buy one and not like it.
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Shell out the cash? You can get them NOS in the box for relatively cheap. Keep an eye on these.
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