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Old 10-22-06, 11:32 AM   #1
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hot deal on SixSixOne's and eggbeaters ($62.50 + shipping)

Steepandcheap.com has SixSixOne Sessions SPD's (even though the shoes in the pic are the non-SPD version) and eggbeaters candy c's, $62.50 plus shipping for the whole rig. Sizes are running short, but people should get on these if they want to go to clipless for like no money.

SixSixOne shoes are pretty well liked around here, though there have been durability complaints. Eggbeater candy C's are pretty good, they're just regular beaters with a little frame so they might suck a little less for bodega runs in sneakers, though cue b!tching by everybody who hates eggbeaters (soft cleats, no tension adjustment).
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Does the tread on these shoes adequately cover the cleat? All* of the "street" or "touring" shoes I have experienced left the cleat exposed enough that within two or three weeks the cleat was no longer effective.

*All = Those shimano ones and the specialized taho.
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Does the tread on these shoes adequately cover the cleat? All* of the "street" or "touring" shoes I have experienced left the cleat exposed enough that within two or three weeks the cleat was no longer effective.

*All = Those shimano ones and the specialized taho.
The cleat must be exposed enough to engage with the pedal without intefering with the sole of the shoe. The wear you see on the face of the cleat doesn't make the cleat ineffective, as the wear you should be worried about is the increased curvature under the tangs of the cleat; that's caused only by engaging and disengaging with the pedal and not from walking on it (unless of course you're actually chipping away at the cleat to the point where the tangs are caved in). The cleats aren't as malleable as some would like to believe and the scuffing isn't an indicator of the overall wear of the cleat. A cleat should last a couple thousand miles, although it could reasonably be escalated by swaying your feet back and forth within the float zone or consistently hard forces (skidding). I've yet to pop out of my cleat from strictly forward forces and it's been almost a thousand miles ("premium" brass Crank Bros. cleat on Shimano MT40 shoes).

Of course, if you're hiking or walking on gravel with your shoes, it's likely the aforementioned caving in of the tangs could happen, but the cleats are made of pretty hardy metal.
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The cleat must be exposed enough to engage with the pedal without intefering with the sole of the shoe. The wear you see on the face of the cleat doesn't make the cleat ineffective, as the wear you should be worried about is the increased curvature under the tangs of the cleat; that's caused only by engaging and disengaging with the pedal and not from walking on it (unless of course you're actually chipping away at the cleat to the point where the tangs are caved in). The cleats aren't as malleable as some would like to believe and the scuffing isn't an indicator of the overall wear of the cleat. A cleat should last a couple thousand miles, although it could reasonably be escalated by swaying your feet back and forth within the float zone or consistently hard forces (skidding). I've yet to pop out of my cleat from strictly forward forces and it's been almost a thousand miles ("premium" brass Crank Bros. cleat on Shimano MT40 shoes).

Of course, if you're hiking or walking on gravel with your shoes, it's likely the aforementioned caving in of the tangs could happen, but the cleats are made of pretty hardy metal.
Sorry if my language was unclear. I was not actually speculating on what I think might happen if someone wore shoes with recessed cleats. I was alluding to something that actually happened to me. I can't find the cleats to take a picture of them, but I know how they are supposed to wear, I have eggbeaters on my mountain bike and quatros on my road bike. I tried for 3 weeks to use them on my daily fix with the Taho shoes, but I was soon pulling out of the pedals when I lifted with any force at all. I was walking on concrete. I tried the Shimano shoes and I could feel the same thing happening, so I gave up. I guess these would be safe in some kind of environment where concrete isnít the walking surface, but I live in a Western city, developed mainly in the 20th century.

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Dude, learn before you hate. S&C is a one day, one deal closeout site run by backcountry.com. Backcountry.com is a great retailer, they sell tons of stuff that 99.9% of the population couldn't get locally if they wanted to. Their prices are good and in my experience they have impeccable customer service.
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Does the tread on these shoes adequately cover the cleat? All* of the "street" or "touring" shoes I have experienced left the cleat exposed enough that within two or three weeks the cleat was no longer effective.

*All = Those shimano ones and the specialized taho.
- these don't have that problem whatsoever
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Really? I could've swore you could say the exact same thing about an LBS.
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these are my shoes and my pedals.
i love them both.
waaaaaaaaay better than the spd pedals i rode for 6 years.
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Really? I could've swore you could say the exact same thing about an LBS.
Which of the thousands of LBS did I say this about? It probably wasn't the one where I'm employeed.
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Really? I could've swore you could say the exact same thing about an LBS.
did you miss that?
i agree with him.

i'm debating whether or not to go for it. i'm pretty happy with clips and straps, but everyone's always talking about how nice clipless is. thank god no one who checks steepandcheap is really interested in these. its giving me a lot of time.
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I'm seriously considering these. I've been wanting to try beaters, and I need some walkable clipless shoes, so the deal seems perfect. Except... I think the shoes are ugly. Ah well... Perhaps that is all the excuse I need not to spend $62.50
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these look wide, like skate shoes. is that right?

and has anyone figured out if the cleats are truly recessed?
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What ridiculous looking shoes...
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+1 and they happen to sponsor me, so buy your **** there
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