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Old 12-15-06, 06:37 PM   #26
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When I first started seriously riding every day I gained weight for about 2 months. After that I started to loose fat. My legs are massive (I'm big anyway) but the top half of me got thinner. And then I went all lazy for a couple months and gained about 1/3 of my weight back. I still have massive legs though ;-)

as far as squats go.. Since there are various opinions on what to do I'm wondering where a good place to start would be? I'm trying to put together a daily exercise routine and am wanting to include squats in there.
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Muscle is more dense than fat so you can burn off and replace it with heavier muscle. No visible difference but you gain weight.
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Old 12-15-06, 07:29 PM   #28
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as far as squats go.. Since there are various opinions on what to do I'm wondering where a good place to start would be? I'm trying to put together a daily exercise routine and am wanting to include squats in there.
Check out this: http://strengthandfitness.blogspot.com/

Fred F. has been in the strength and fitness game for a long long time and knows his stuff.
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Old 12-15-06, 07:55 PM   #29
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Nope, your butt makes your butt look big, not the bike.

Your next thread should be titled: The dryer shrunk my pants...again!
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Since there are various opinions on what to do I'm wondering where a good place to start would be? I'm trying to put together a daily exercise routine and am wanting to include squats in there.
Save up $75-100, go to a gym frequented by power-lifters, and pay for a single session with the trainer that has the longest waiting list of clients. One hour of doing them the absolute right way with someone who can tell you exactly what you're doing right and/or wrong is more valuable than twenty books.
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I actually lost the flubby mass that was encasing my otherwise righteous man legs and ass hah hahh aha it is sad but true from 250 to 215 in 4 months 40 or more miles a day and I have the worst diet ever
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Old 12-15-06, 09:44 PM   #32
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screw weight lifting. take up climbing. the last summer where I had time to boulder every other day I gained ten pounds in a month, and my upper body became a solid mass to match my legs.
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Save up $75-100, go to a gym frequented by power-lifters, and pay for a single session with the trainer that has the longest waiting list of clients. One hour of doing them the absolute right way with someone who can tell you exactly what you're doing right and/or wrong is more valuable than twenty books.
This is basically the best advice you can get for proper squat/deadlift/bench/anything technique. They will point you in the right direction for sure. I don't even know if you need to go with a trainer. The power lifting gym I go/went to (it closed down, but not before they filmed all the gym scenes for the new Rocky movie there) was filled with dudes who can squat 1000+, so they were more than willing to show me proper technique/the basics for free.

Also, sarcoplasmic hypertrophy increases with more repetitions. In other words, if you just want to get big, low weight high reps will do it. If you want to actually be strong (myofibrilar hypertrophy) you should do 5 or less. Any decent sports science book will confirm this.
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If you want to blow your legs up, high reps is not the way!

When I raced track, our coach would have us do two sets of twenty squats, with a weight that was challenging for ten reps. I went from 175 pounds to 190 pounds in six months, and was squating 265 for twenty reps.

google super squats, deep breathing squats, or high rep squats for more info.

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scale measurements for body fat are generally never right.
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If you want to blow your legs up, high reps is not the way!
Maybe his purpose is endurance and not bulk. He didn't say what weight he was squatting, and he didn't say if he's lifting to failure.

I do 3 sets at 8-10-12. My quads are rock hard, and I could easily do another two ascending sets.
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as far as squats go.. Since there are various opinions on what to do I'm wondering where a good place to start would be? I'm trying to put together a daily exercise routine and am wanting to include squats in there.
I recommend http://stumptuous.com/cms/displaysection.php?sid=3
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I row and ride fixed--- my legs are large. Pants can be an issue. It's amusing when the waste doesn't fit at all, but the ass/thigh does.
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I don't even know if you need to go with a trainer. The power lifting gym I go/went to (it closed down, but not before they filmed all the gym scenes for the new Rocky movie there) was filled with dudes who can squat 1000+, so they were more than willing to show me proper technique/the basics for free.
Yeah, that's true too. The thing is with squats is you really need someone who knows what they're doing to talk you through them correctly. Correct form is actually more painful and taxing than most 'cheats'; the problem is by cheating you're putting parts of your body under load with the wrong biomechanical position, and that's when people blow out their knees or backs.

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When I raced track, our coach would have us do two sets of twenty squats, with a weight that was challenging for ten reps. I went from 175 pounds to 190 pounds in six months, and was squating 265 for twenty reps.

google super squats, deep breathing squats, or high rep squats for more info.
Good distinction. If you want to be strong for track, your workout sounds more appropriate. The way to train for peak single-rep strength requires alternating high/low rep scenarios, say a 3x15-rep week, 3x8-rep week, and a 3x4 rep week, with the occasional 'warmup - 1x12 - 1x8 - 1x1-2 to get a new personal best.
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WTF?
Just ride your bike every day. Eat a decent diet. You'll be healthy and you'll have the body your genes have dictated for you.

I'm missing the point aren't I.

Hey Scrod, how'd snorting a line of habanero seeds off the hood of a red Fiero work for you?
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OP's butt has probably gotten even bigger over the past eight years.
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Yah ha, I've been zombiefied. There was a post above mine that was blatant spam. It was that post that brought this thread back from the dead only I didn't realise it (I need to look at dates dammit). I gave my reply and then reported the spam, which the mods have now kindly deleted but it moved my post up to the zombie position.

And so I've been caught. Spam. Evil stuff, even the muck you're supposed to eat.
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Yah ha, I've been zombiefied. There was a post above mine that was blatant spam. It was that post that brought this thread back from the dead only I didn't realise it (I need to look at dates dammit). I gave my reply and then reported the spam, which the mods have now kindly deleted but it moved my post up to the zombie position.

And so I've been caught. Spam. Evil stuff, even the muck you're supposed to eat.
Still relevant though, so not much of a fail.
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Does my ass make my butt look big?
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I started lifting (lower body) again for the first time in years. A few weeks ago. Certain pairs of pants are harder to put on and take off now and it feels awesome.
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Does my ass make my butt look big?
Yes, but your next door neighbour loves it (and he's a bloke )
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I started lifting (lower body) again for the first time in years. A few weeks ago. Certain pairs of pants are harder to put on and take off now and it feels awesome.
My son plays soccer. He doesn't do any weights or gym work, just trains bloody hard at his sport and his body is just muscle upon muscle. Other players tend to notice it when he hits them.

I just ride my bike. My legs are fantastic ... sadly they don't compensate for the aerobulge that's grown above my belt line.
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Yes, but your next door neighbour loves it (and he's a bloke )
Can't blame him.
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