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Old 12-18-06, 09:18 PM   #1
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SS 29er mtn bike on the cheap?

So, GT has the new singlespeed 'Peace 9er' for around a five hundred bucks. It has almost everything I have been looking for in a new mountain bike; big wheels to fit my studded Nokians, one speed, and prebuilt on the cheap. Unfortunately, it comes bereft of disc mounts, which I would very much like to have.
GT's 'Peace' HAS disc mounts, but also has 26" wheels and it doesn't say whether it can accept the bigger wheels. (It doesn't LOOK accommodating)

My questions:
Anyone know if there are any other budget SS 29' mtn bikes?
Anyone ride a SS 29 before?
Have I been brainwashed over the hype surrounding shiny new 29ers?
Should I just grab a rust bucket from the dump and use that for the winter commute?

Thanks!
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Old 12-18-06, 09:27 PM   #2
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Jamis has a ss 26" bike and a 29er. Both are cheap, the 29er is fully rigid while the 26" is squishy in the front.
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Old 12-18-06, 09:32 PM   #3
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the monocog 29er.
yes
it sounds like it if you are only considering 29ers and have never ridden one.
possibly. If you don;t actually want an mtb the rest of the year then probably.
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Old 12-18-06, 09:42 PM   #4
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+1 monocog 29er
<$500 and decent. apparently hard to find these days

if you up your budget to ~$800ish then you're approching the territory of the Raleigh XXIX, the Monocog Flight 29er and others.
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Unless you live on a fairly gnarly fire road, there's no reason to buy a 29er to commute, and plenty of reasons why it's actually worse. Get some used Al rig, convert for cheap, rock on. Buying new frames only encourages them.
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+1 monocog 29er
<$500 and decent. apparently hard to find these days
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i believe that the monocog also comes with disc-capable hubs as well, so you can just slap whatever set of discs you want on there and go.
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Old 12-18-06, 10:15 PM   #7
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I would really really like to test-ride a monocog 29er one of these days.
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Old 12-19-06, 12:17 AM   #8
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Unless you live on a fairly gnarly fire road, there's no reason to buy a 29er to commute, and plenty of reasons why it's actually worse. Get some used Al rig, convert for cheap, rock on. Buying new frames only encourages them.
Yep-- I did the 15 mile commute on my Karate Monkey (geared) today and it kicked my ass. Had me longing for the light, nimble fixie. Of course, hitting potholes in the dark on the 2.1 knobbies is a little more comfy than on 23c street/track setup.

But yeah, unless you drop serious $$$ on ultralight 29er parts, you'll end up pushing a 30lb bike back and forth to work. Any old mountain bike will be a little more manageable. The (rather subjective) advantages to 29er setups largely apply to offroad riding only. Those are a) the ability to roll over obstacles easier, b) greater momentum for climbing steep sections of trail and c) greater tire contact / traction in difficult terrain. None of that really matters when you're on an asphalt bike lane.

Handling is different too. 700c wheels just seem like more work to throw around in tight spaces, and the 29er geometry can be quite different from 26". Go ride one and see if you like it.

And the Monocog seems like a good deal. Frame / fork alone can be had for $250 or so.
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Old 12-19-06, 08:38 PM   #10
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the monocog and (suprisingly) the stout seem like a good investment. steer clear of that gt for no other reason than the eccentric bottom bracket. it can be a difficult thing to set up correctly and some work better than others. i'll wager since the bike is kinda 'budget' that it doesn't work as well as the G.F. rigs do.
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you can find complete surly karate monkeys on mtbr all the time. but for new, the monocog. i'm a bit out of the loop but do know that until very recently the 26 version had bmx spacing @ the rear hub which is completely different than mtb spacing, so you may want to look into that.
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Old 12-20-06, 07:33 AM   #12
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but for new, the monocog. i'm a bit out of the loop but do know that until very recently the 26 version had bmx spacing @ the rear hub which is completely different than mtb spacing, so you may want to look into that.
2006's and newer have 135 (MTB) spacing. Other good options: Kona Unit 29er (maybe a little Pricey), Raleigh XXIX (fork isn't suspension corrected, so if you go for squish it will probably chopper the bike a bit).
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I'll put my vote in for the Raleigh XXIX. SS 29'er with Avid disc brakes. Decent components, fully rigid, fun as hell. I purchased a demo bike from the dealer for $550. I think they retail for $730 or so.
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...And to answer your question whether or not a 29'er is worth it? I would definitely make a point to test ride a few models. I'm not sure I would have paid retail for the XXIX, but it is proving to be a fun bike. I have not ridden my other mountain bikes since its purchase.
I should mention that I have primarily been riding it on singletrack trails. Commuting kind of stinks with the current 32x20 gearing. I top out quickly. In the snow, of which we don't have any here in Minnesota yet, it might be better. The 32x20 gearing works great on the singletrack with some climbs.
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i'd go monocog...

i had the 26" one and it was my first singlespeed mtb. it was a kind of a tank but they really nailed the geometry and it was a perfect bike for dicing up singletrack. i bet the 29er is the same and i haven't seen anyone hate on it yet.

i know someone who was raving about the XIXX too! but if you want suspension eventually i'd look somewhere different.

that gt peace is just sketchy... eccentric bb; but then rim brakes???? i think they was hitting the bong a little too hard drawin that one up...

finally in my nitpicking of the current niner crop; the jamis only has a 71 degree head angle. in my thinking that is pretty slack jack; never ridden one though.

maybe haro mary?
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Old 12-25-06, 08:07 PM   #16
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...And to answer your question whether or not a 29'er is worth it? I would definitely make a point to test ride a few models. I'm not sure I would have paid retail for the XXIX, but it is proving to be a fun bike. I have not ridden my other mountain bikes since its purchase.
I should mention that I have primarily been riding it on singletrack trails. Commuting kind of stinks with the current 32x20 gearing. I top out quickly. In the snow, of which we don't have any here in Minnesota yet, it might be better. The 32x20 gearing works great on the singletrack with some climbs.
I paid $750 for my XXIX, which is about the same price I see other folks paying for it around other parts of the USA too. I have used mine for commuting and it works very well. No complaints at all from me about it!
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i am definately wondering about the whole 29er thing too... i could throw this out to mtn bike forum, but from a ss/fixed perspective what are pros and cons?
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I've been eyeing the On-One Inbred 29'er for a while now.

Pricepoint has them on sale for $800.
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I love my Monocog 29er!!!!
Paid under $500, the only real issue is the headset.
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I paid $750 for my XXIX, which is about the same price I see other folks paying for it around other parts of the USA too. I have used mine for commuting and it works very well. No complaints at all from me about it!
I just paid $675 for a new Raliegh XXIX to use as my winter/mountain bike. Apparently the shop brought one in for a customer who never showed up for it, so they knocked some bread down for me. I'm changing the freewheel to a 16 tooth as I was topping out the 20 tooth too easily on the test rides.
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I've been eyeing the On-One Inbred 29'er for a while now.

Pricepoint has them on sale for $800.
i LOVE my on-one 29"er.

i also think the monocog is a great complete bike for the price. my friend just got the flight monocog and absolutely loves it.
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Wow, that SE IS a piece of crap. But it sure is cheap!
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i'd go monocog...

i had the 26" one and it was my first singlespeed mtb. it was a kind of a tank but they really nailed the geometry and it was a perfect bike for dicing up singletrack. i bet the 29er is the same and i haven't seen anyone hate on it yet.
Yes they did nail the geometry. I have an Aluminum Monocog flight. Its light and fast on really tight singletrack. I've never ridden anything that feels quite that good on tight dirt corners.
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I would really really like to test-ride a monocog 29er one of these days.
Coming from the man that is tryin to stay away from 700c wheels.
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