Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-20-06, 10:09 AM   #1
Gyeswho
Utilitarian Boy
Thread Starter
 
Gyeswho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bronx, NY
Bikes: Check the sig to find out
Posts: 3,235
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Track Frame Difference?

What is the diff btween a reg. track and pursuit frame? Also is one more comfortable for street riding? Is one more durable? Lighter?
Gyeswho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 10:16 AM   #2
dutret
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: GA
Bikes:
Posts: 5,317
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
a tt/pursuit frame might have a lower bb, slacker headtube and steeper seatube.

A more general purpose track frame is better for riding on the street in pretty much any situation but a road frame will probably be better then either for many.
dutret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 10:41 AM   #3
BostonFixed
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyeswho
What is the diff btween a reg. track and pursuit frame? Also is one more comfortable for street riding? Is one more durable? Lighter?
Neither are suitable for street riding.
BostonFixed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 01:44 PM   #4
G0balistik
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boston
Bikes:
Posts: 299
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Neither are suitable for street riding.
I disagree, many people ride track bikes on the street.
G0balistik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 03:54 PM   #5
wearyourtruth
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Baltimore
Bikes:
Posts: 2,729
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
suitable is a relative term... neither are DESIGNED for street riding, doesn't mean they can't be riden on the streets and function just fine.
wearyourtruth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 04:02 PM   #6
Shiznaz
Gone, but not forgotten
 
Shiznaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Toronto
Bikes: spicer fixie, Haro BMX, cyclops track, Soma Double Cross, KHS Flite 100
Posts: 4,508
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Depends the kind of parts you throw on it. I've seen alot of pursuit track frames online with crazy sloping top tubes and pretty much totally inappropriate street geoemtry, but they made up for with riser bars. People can get away with deep drop bars on regular track frames because you just keep your hands next to the stem.

Simple answer, track frame.
Shiznaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 05:17 PM   #7
Fixxxie
Strange As Angels
 
Fixxxie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Longmont, CO
Bikes:
Posts: 465
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


You can bet your ass that thing isn't made for the street but I'd ride the s*** out of it through downtown.

$0.02
Fixxxie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 05:48 PM   #8
operator
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Posts: 28,306
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by G0balistik
I disagree, many people ride track bikes on the street.
Doesn't mean they were designed to be used on the street. For gods sake why do we even have road bikes in that case.
operator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 05:53 PM   #9
visitordesign
keep it pretend
 
visitordesign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 1,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
just get custom frames built for how you want to ride.
ride the hell out of them.
ignore the human tendency toward semantic battles of genrefication.
visitordesign is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 07:01 PM   #10
joshm
drunken ass
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: portland, or
Bikes: davidson track bike, cecil walker track bike, conversion fixie polo bike
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i ride a track bike on the street... it's much more comfortable to ride than a roadframe conversion on the street. higher bb, tighter geometery, etc.
ride what you ride.
joshm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 07:08 PM   #11
mihlbach
Senior Member
 
mihlbach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Bikes:
Posts: 6,419
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshm
i ride a track bike on the street... it's much more comfortable to ride than a roadframe conversion on the street. higher bb, tighter geometery, etc.
ride what you ride.
I agree with that. You'd think a road frame would be more comfortable on the road, but I find my track frame to be more comfy than any of my road frames, even for long distances, unless the roads are rough, then my track bike kills me.
mihlbach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-06, 07:20 PM   #12
cavernmech
Jonnys ilegitimate Father
 
cavernmech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: toronto
Bikes: too many too list
Posts: 2,994
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have ridden both Pursuit frames (radical slope and standard design) and Sprint frames extensively on the street. All the sprint bikes I have had (Coppi x 2, Gardin and Rossin) were all steel and very tight geometry wise. Both Coppi's and the Rossin were standard design and had lots of toe overlap and usually around 75 degree H.T. with shorter proportionate top tubes. The Gardin was a severely sloping bike and was terrible on the street. All these bikes were super tight and had a reatively harsh ride for steel owing to how steep and short they were.
The Pursuit style frames I have had (Rossin, G.T. and Winterbourne) all had a more relaxed ride. Both the G.T. (Easton) and Rossin (Dedaccai Aero) were super stiff at the B.B. frames but were much smoother riding on the street. Mostly because the top tubes and front center dimensions were longer. still have a steep H.T. angle but because of the longer top tube, no toe overlap, even with my size 12 canoes and XL toe clips. When I purchased the Winterbourne Custom (Mostly True Temper OX, Columbus stays)I wanted a more T.T. style bike as I find the longer cockpit and lack of any toe overlap friendlier and more comfy for the street.
They are all track bikes. Not a single one has/had a brake hole. They all saw track use and performed fine. Some were better street bikes than others. None had a noticeably shorter lifespan then any of the road or hardtail mtb frames I have put through the same amount of abuse.
Bikes are bikes. The only limitation is how hard you are willing to ride them and the care you put into taking care of them. My $1 and 2 cents.
cavernmech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-06, 12:37 AM   #13
G0balistik
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boston
Bikes:
Posts: 299
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by operator
Doesn't mean they were designed to be used on the street. For gods sake why do we even have road bikes in that case.

oh, and you never see mtn bikes and downhill bikes riding down the sidewalk.
G0balistik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-06, 07:08 AM   #14
Aeroplane
jack of one or two trades
 
Aeroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Posts: 5,637
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by G0balistik
oh, and you never see mtn bikes and downhill bikes riding down the sidewalk.
I've never seen downhill bikes riding down the sidewalk (not any serious ones, anyways), but your point is correct. If it's got two wheels, you can ride it in a city and do fine.
Aeroplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:35 AM.