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Old 12-20-06, 04:10 PM   #1
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Axle Position in dropouts

I need some opinions on if my axle is too far forward in my dropouts. I took out my halflink to get a tighter chain, and it might be too short now. I can run it with the link no problem, but wanted a litle less rock in chain. I don't skid as my knee just can't take it.



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Old 12-20-06, 04:16 PM   #2
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its hard to tell from those photos. take a picture from the side, stairing straight at the axel nut
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Old 12-20-06, 04:17 PM   #3
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in my opinion you have plenty of room. as long as you've got about 3/4 of the nut touching the dropout you're good. i'm sure you'll get varying opinions but i've tried it your way to much success.
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Old 12-20-06, 04:17 PM   #4
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That's fine. The axle and nut is completely surrounded by the dropout. On one of my bikes half the nut is outside of the dropout, and it's never slipped.
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Old 12-20-06, 04:19 PM   #5
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Looks fine to me.
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Old 12-20-06, 04:20 PM   #6
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You might consider JBwelding it in there for added security.
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Old 12-20-06, 04:43 PM   #7
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That's tons o' room. My bike's similar to BostonFixed and it's nary slipped, eh.
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mine is about same psoition as yours. same type of locking nut. nevre slipped
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Old 12-20-06, 05:49 PM   #9
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You might consider JBwelding it in there for added security.
really? i was going to suggest some loctite.
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really? i was going to suggest some loctite.
Would you suggest red or blue?
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looks fine.
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is that the red or the blue? i can never remember.
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Obviously if you mix read and blue you get purple. Everyone knows purple loctite is low strength.
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Better get some phlogiston, then.
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Should be fine.
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IF it's gonna slip it's gonna slip...you'll have less warning of a catastrophic failure than you would with longer dropouts, but not by much. Just tighten it down as if your life depended on it...
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... yeah, or just loctite it.

you may actually want to walk it down to a framebuilder and see how much he'll charge to weld the axle into the dropouts for you. it's the only TRUE way to avoid failure, and i do it with all my bikes as i'm sure any consciencous rider does.
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I agree with most that the axle position isn't really a big deal, especially if you're not skidding.

However, I am confused as to why you took the halflink out to "get a tighter chain." What does a shorter chain have to do with tightness other than when it's hitting the back of the dropout?
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Old 12-23-06, 12:52 PM   #21
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I agree with most that the axle position isn't really a big deal, especially if you're not skidding.

However, I am confused as to why you took the halflink out to "get a tighter chain." What does a shorter chain have to do with tightness other than when it's hitting the back of the dropout?
The halflink had the axle up against the dropouts for the setup I like, and the chain had a little too much play, not enough to have the chain fall, but enough to bother me on trackstands and backpeddling.
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Must be some pretty small dropouts then, since a halflink only gives 1/4" more room.
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Its fine bro. I have my winter bike set-up similarly to what you have goin on. I can skid the crap out of it and it hasnt slipped yet...even with craptastic non-track nuts. Don't sweat it.
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I am going to just pop in real quick and try to lear something, he said, " don't skid as my knee just can't take it." And I was just wondering how chain tension can effect skidding? Thanks!
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