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Old 12-23-06, 03:59 PM   #1
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Opinions on the new EAI frame

I was looking around for a fixed gear frame and I saw the brassknuckle on thebikebiz. It has come down to one of these, a bareknucle (if I can find one cheap), a Soma Rush (once again, cheap), or a Cayne UNO frame. Are they any good, or move on. And please, just because its aluminium, don't say it'll be harsh cause I know that.
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Old 12-23-06, 07:22 PM   #2
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For $30 more you can get a Pake and it is CrMo 4130, and you get the fork.
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Old 12-23-06, 07:25 PM   #3
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I just noticed on their site they have it for $264 with frame and fork.
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Old 12-23-06, 08:26 PM   #4
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From the pictures I saw from interbike, it is hideous.
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dunno what you guys are talking about but its going on my next build list. the price is right, its aluminum, it actually looks classy.
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Old 12-23-06, 08:56 PM   #6
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The bike at interbike was a prototype, so there's no way to tell what the build quality will be on the production models. I'm waiting to see one in real life before passing judgment. I can say that the EAI frames are built as track bikes (ie. for use on a real velodrome) while the soma and cayne are made to be ridden on the road.
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Old 12-23-06, 08:58 PM   #7
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my brass knuckle is on order so that will tell you what I think
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Although the Pake is cheaper, I hate awkward seatpost diameters. If I get the Brassknuckle I already have a seatpost, same goes for the other frames (except the UNO). I'd need some serious convincing, also because I already have forks for both sizes of HS. I like the look of the Soma Rush. I found one in my size for $320, without fork. I'd need some seriously convincing arguments to go for the pake.
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I agree with the off-sized seat post. If my road bike had a 27.2mm seatpost instead of 27, life would be so much easier.
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The Pake looks 100 times better than that Brassknuckle. If you care about looks i mean
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For $30 more you can get a Pake and it is CrMo 4130, and you get the fork.
Oh, yeah, I don't want the fork. I have forks.
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The Pake looks 100 times better than that Brassknuckle. If you care about looks i mean
The Pake is 100 times heavier than that Brassknuckle. If you care about about a weight i mean.

Don't sweat the slopping downtube. "Looks" are subjective after all anyways.
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Khaki and file cabinet grey are the only colors? Are they trying to make them as unappealing as possible? Ugh. I'd get one if they offered it in a color that a person who still had his soul could enjoy.
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pake is the same geometry as the rush just uses regular old gas pipe tubes instead of reynolds or tange

if you are feeling either of those why not an iro they ar inexpensive have killer support - tony is the nicest guy second only to gene spicer in my book

or if you are into and al frame look at the spicer standard al frames the are really nice and gene is a really great guy to deal with

or you could get a leader off ebay
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This forum is aluminum/sloping top tube/threadless headset h8rz anonymous, so don't listen too much to what people on here say. If you like the way modern road bikes feel, you'll like this bike. I think you're in weird territory comparing it to born-to-eat-potholes stuff like the street steel frames you mention, you're talking apples and oranges.



This is thebikebiz's picture, presumably the interbike rig. Are those really steel bars on an all-Al whip? Anybody know if the fork is Al? Weird.
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fork is al bars are crmo b123 stem is also steel it is the fillet nitto stem
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He could get a decent cf fork/seatpost and a comfy saddle and it wouldn't be a big deal. Alloy hate is overrated.
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I have an alloy (even if it has a bit of carbon in the rear) road frame (BMC). Low tyre pressures, proper position and comfy saddle/bars are all you need.
Oh yeah, I want this to be fast. I'm not overly worried about comfort, but I have a spare 1 1/8" carbon fork and can easily get a 1 inch cheaply. I need to see the grey. If its matt, I'm there. I am still investigating IROs. I like the brassknuckle though. Fat Al tubes with chunky chainstays is where I'm at. But not too sure about sloping.
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I am an iron butt no pads no chamois no nothin just butt and bike I can't tell the difference
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spicer makes a few variations of these for around 350 usd
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spicer makes a few variations of these for around 350 usd
Is the Spicer aluminum track frame real track geo?
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I'd hate to see you riding. at least nothing would be there to get caught in moving parts.
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I'd hate to see you riding. at least nothing would be there to get caught in moving parts.

well I do wear clothes I just don't wear padded shorts and most of my saddles are old school hard plactic with leather covers if I am lucky
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I have an alloy (even if it has a bit of carbon in the rear) road frame (BMC). Low tyre pressures, proper position and comfy saddle/bars are all you need.
Oh yeah, I want this to be fast. I'm not overly worried about comfort, but I have a spare 1 1/8" carbon fork and can easily get a 1 inch cheaply. I need to see the grey. If its matt, I'm there. I am still investigating IROs. I like the brassknuckle though. Fat Al tubes with chunky chainstays is where I'm at. But not too sure about sloping.
If you want it to be fast and al, then slopping top tubes are where it's at.
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I dunno. My non sloping SL01 is pretty quick.
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