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    cheaper BB for record crankset

    (In my search of a new crankset)

    What are the cheap Campy BBs that can be used with their record pista crankset (111mm) ?
    TrackstarNY sells the Centaur and the AC-S with it.
    Both are 111 mm and square taper. In these conditions, any other 111mm (like the chorus) should be fine ? Right ? How to decide ? Can I pick-up the first cheap 111mm BB that I find or is there something else I should know ?

    How does it affect the chainline ? How many mm ?
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiney
    Can I pick-up the first cheap 111mm BB that I find or is there something else I should know ?
    You'll need a campagnolo-specific taper axle. Most cheap BBs will not be campagnolo-taper, which could damage your cranks over time. If you don't want to spring for a Campy BB, I'm pretty sure the Miche track BB has the proper taper - it's cheap, reliable and adjustable.

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    I'm using AC-S/Mirage/Veloce (they all look identical) bb's on both my older 151 and recent 144 Pista cranksets. These bb's are dirt cheap now. I picked up a spare one just recently for $12 from Cambria Bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatano
    You'll need a campagnolo-specific taper axle. .

    Yes, sorry, I meant "the first Campy 111mm that I can find".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fixer
    I'm using AC-S bb's on both my older 151 and recent 144 Pista cranksets. These bb's are dirt cheap now. I picked up a spare one just recently for $12 from Cambria Bikes.
    No chainline issue at all ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiney
    any other 111mm (like the chorus) should be fine ? Right ?
    Most chorus and record BB will be 102mm, which is the standard that they use for the road, double cranks. I have only ever seen the 111mm for campy's triple cranksets (and apparently record track cranks).

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    FYI, stay away from the "Token" brand campy BBs you'll find online and on Ebay. They are poorly made and the spindles regularly snap in a dangerous way.
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    the non-pista 111mm campy BB's are meant for triples and have an assymmetrical axle.
    the campy pista takes a 111mm *symmertrical* spindle. your chainline will probably be off if you use the chorus/acs etc bb
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    I was having this same quandry with my '06 Record cranks. The assymetrical axle COULD be a problem, and I considered the Miche as well, but after seeing how many of those just freeze up over time (they're pretty crappy), finally coughed up $ for the new Record BB. Hey, there are some older, loose-ball, Campy Pista 109 BBs on eBay right now - they'll undoubtedly be cheaper and those are better anyway!

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    Dont know if anyone has said this...but go with the Centaur 111 for triples. Works great. I have been riding one for about three years. Chain-line is spot on w/ Phil and Phil. Also...if you would like a pic, I can provide. Talk to John at Business Cycles...he will set you straight if you dont believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiney
    No chainline issue at all ?
    These bb's give me 42mm chainlines with Pista cranks.




    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    the non-pista 111mm campy BB's are meant for triples and have an assymmetrical axle.
    the campy pista takes a 111mm *symmertrical* spindle. your chainline will probably be off if you use the chorus/acs etc bb
    They may be assymmetrical but they're hardly noticable. Chainstay/crankarm clearance look pretty even on both sides. These 111mm Veloce/Mirage/Centaur bb's with outer flanges on both sides all look identical to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juvi-kyle
    Dont know if anyone has said this...but go with the Centaur 111 for triples. Works great. I have been riding one for about three years. Chain-line is spot on w/ Phil and Phil. Also...if you would like a pic, I can provide. Talk to John at Business Cycles...he will set you straight if you dont believe.
    Thank you all,

    Concerning the Record Track BB, Lickbike.com writes :

    " Excellent cartridge bottom bracket that will fit your Campagnolo Track cranks or as an upgrade for your Daytona/Centaur cranks. ....... Note this will not work on Record triple crank (requires 111mm asymmetric) "

    So I guess, The Record Track and the Centaur/Daytona are not identical, but not so different.
    Thanks.

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